1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    Gog Magog Identified. ITS NOT RUSSIA.

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    31 May '14 01:15
    Who is Magog? - Chuck Missler

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    What About Rosh?

    Now the word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him, and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords. Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops—many people are with you.

    (Ezekiel 38:1-6 NKJV)

    It has been determinined by the British guy that Meshech and Tubal refer to the land called Turkey today, but he ignores Rosh. Couldn't Rosh refer to Russia as Chuck Missler seems to think?
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    31 May '14 02:022 edits
    Some versions of the Bible translate the Hebrew word “rosh” in (Ezekiel 38:22) as a noun, referring to a place in Russia. The least credible support for this view is that Rosh sounds like the modern-day name Russia and Meshech sounds like Moscow. The Greek translation treats Rosh as the proper name Ros. Because the ancient Sarmations were known as the Ras, Rashu, and Rus and inhabited Rasapu, which is now Southern Russia, some feel this verse points to Russia as the “prince of Rosh.” Other support cited for this view is that verses 38:6,15 say the invasion will come from remote parts of the north, and Russia is very remote.

    Other versions of the Bible translate “rosh” as an adjective. The argument here is that in the Masoretic text, the words “chief prince” carry the accents Tiphha and Zaqeph-gadol. The Tiphha appears under the resh of the Hebrew word “rosh”; the Zaqeph-gadol appears on top of the sin of the Hebrew word “nish.” The Tiphha to the right, underneath the initial consonant of the world “rosh,” or chief, is prepositive and does not mark the tone syllable. The world “nish” or prince has the accent Zaqeph-gadol, which is disjunctive and indicates a pause. So Ezekiel 38:3 would read:

    This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, O Gog, the prince, [pause] chief of Meshech and Tubal.
    rather than:
    This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, O Gog, prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal.
    Here “rosh” is translated head or chief as it is 423 other times in the Old Testament.


    http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/GogAntichrist/moredetails.html

    And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
    Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
    And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:


    (Ezekiel 38:1-3 KJV)

    Which translation is correct?

    Russia is not considered Islamic, whereas all the other nations identified are Islamic. So Russia appears out of place.
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    31 May '14 07:21
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Gog Magog Identified. ITS NOT RUSSIA.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cq340CtbW4
    I have been there, walked on it. A hill just outside Cambridge (East Anglia, not Massachusetts). Nothing spectacular.
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    31 May '14 07:30
    Originally posted by moonbus
    I have been there, walked on it. A hill just outside Cambridge (East Anglia, not Massachusetts). Nothing spectacular.
    Did you say this jokingly, or do you really believe it has something to do with England or the UK?
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    31 May '14 11:101 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Did you say this jokingly, or do you really believe it has something to do with England or the UK?
    There is indeed a place called Gog Magog in England. I have been there. Google maps if in doubt.
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    31 May '14 11:42
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Who is Magog? - Chuck Missler

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    What's the pint?
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    31 May '14 12:27
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Gog Magog Identified. ITS NOT RUSSIA.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cq340CtbW4
    http://aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Magog
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    31 May '14 13:53
    Originally posted by yoctobyte
    What's the pint?
    The pertinent question is, who's paying for the pint?
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    31 May '14 21:04
    Originally posted by moonbus
    There is indeed a place called Gog Magog in England. I have been there. Google maps if in doubt.
    Okay, I believe you. However, this British guy was not referring to any part of England or the United Kingdom in Europe, but to Turkey in Asia.
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    31 May '14 21:12
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    http://aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Magog
    It appears that the British have divergent opinions as to the identity of Magog.
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    31 May '14 21:19
    Originally posted by yoctobyte
    What's the pint?
    I suppose you are asking for the point in my referencing the video. The point is to identify and discuss the participants in the prophecy in Ezekiel 38 and 39.
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    01 Jun '14 12:14
    Gog and Magog were giants who lived in England in olden times. I can't believe you lot haven't heard of this before. It's definitely true because I read it in a book which somebody told me was inspired by god.
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    01 Jun '14 13:25
    Originally posted by moonbus
    The pertinent question is, who's paying for the pint?
    Well... You are. 🙂
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