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@sonship said
Face it, some things you say are forgettable.
So be it.

However, I think you are lying about forgetting what my beliefs are with regard to this matter.

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The exchanges we have had here FMF, are these your evidence that it is impossible that the Spirit could be flowing in me at any time as rivers of living water?

No one who argues with you this way, perhaps, could possibly have the Holy Spirit ? Is that your logic ?

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@sonship said
@FMF

Please don't talk to me like I am a weakminded or mentally disabled person that you are trying to prey on.


I didn't. I said "What an ego."
You said: Are you fearful of definitely committing to ONE or the OTHER ?

Not: What an ego

Being "an agnostic atheist" is not being "fearful". It sums up my stance accurately.

The 'are you fearful' angle sounds like you are talking to a weakminded or mentally disabled person that you are trying to prey on.

It has nothing to do with when you said "What an ego"

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@sonship said
The exchanges we have had here FMF, are these your evidence that it is impossible that the Spirit could be flowing in me at any time as rivers of living water?
What evidence do you believe there is in your demeanour and behaviour that substantiates the claims you make about yourself?

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@sonship said
No one who argues with you this way, perhaps, could possibly have the Holy Spirit ? Is that your logic ?
Asking me these facetious 'questions' doesn't answer mine about the supernatural claims you make about yourself.

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@FMF

Look it up. There have been at least three major threads about it here in the last 12 months. You can also just Google "agnostic atheist".


Where I look it up you may not approve of. So you have a chance to tell me yourself.

"Look it up". You sound like looking it up can ONLY confirm you.

What if "looking it up" reveals how bogus the posture of Agnostic / Atheist is?
"Look it up" is no guarantee that the silliness of such a position will not be exposed.

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Atheism - a truth claim that there are no gods or God.

Agnosticism - Don't Know if there are or are not.

Agnostic Atheist - someone who wants to try to claim benefit from either position depending on how the debate goes.
He wants to be unassailable.

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@sonship said
Where I look it up you may not approve of. So you have a chance to tell me yourself.
Stop pretending you don't remember. You'd be daft to go look it up. My beliefs have not changed. "Agnostic atheist" has been explained to you repeatedly. Go on the basis of that. The explanation/definition has not changed.

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@sonship said
Agnostic Atheist - someone who wants to try to claim benefit from either position depending on how the debate goes.
He wants to be unassailable.
Nope. The definition I use is the one I told you about before, several times.

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@sonship said
What if "looking it up" reveals how bogus the posture of Agnostic / Atheist is?
Be my guest.

The last time I explained it to you, you called it "bogus". And the time before that. And the time before that. etc.

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@FMF

I have no reason to think Jesus actually represented "perfectly morality" during his life.


Can you think of a more likely person to have approached "perfect morality" then ?

If He is the closest we've got then we're on the right track to look to Him rather than the alternative, which you will NOT propose, incidentally.

At least I am honest enough to mention some others.

Confucius,
Socrates,
Buddha,
Mother Teresa,
Abe Lincoln,
Florence NIghtingale,

You won't even propose other possibilities.

Oh, I forgot, There is your "revealed truth" that Jesus is fiction. A hunch of yours that we all have to take on a blind leap of faith.

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@sonship said
Can you think of a more likely person to have approached "perfect morality" then ?
I have addressed this.

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@sonship said
Oh, I forgot, There is your "revealed truth" that Jesus is fiction. A hunch of yours that we all have to take on a leap of faith.
No. You don't have to agree with my perspective. You simply don't.

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@sonship said
You won't even propose other possibilities.
The people whose moral sensibilities I have most admired or drawn upon for inspiration are all people I have known intimately and witnessed up close. You don't know them. And I am not going to tell you who they are or anything about them. My own moral compass is up for discussion though as countless threads where I have been questioned rigorously about it will attest.

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Then if everything has been discussed in the past there is absolutely no reason I need to act like you have something new.
Forget about this "no re-hash for me, but something new you have to defend."