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@sonship said
We were talking about perfect morality.
That you are a pretty good person is not the final point.
I haven't talked about whether I am a "good person" or not. It's you who seems to want to talk about that.

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@sonship said
You inquired about a perfect morality - I say Jesus Christ.
This is what I "inquired about": Why do you attribute "perfect morality" to Jesus Christ. This is the fourth or fifth time of asking.

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@sonship said
believing I am on the right track to hold Jesus as a perfect moral being - being God Himself incarnate.
Yes, I know you do. But I am asking why do you attribute "perfect morality" to Jesus Christ. Fifth or sixth time of asking.

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@sonship said
If He meant what He said and if Christ turns out to be who He said, that makes all the difference.
If not, you can ho-hum.
The only claims I see as being in play here are yours. The go-to coercion thing you attempt - in this case, it's signalled by the words "the difference" - doesn't make any sense morally speaking, so how can it possibly affect my thinking or the way my life? Ho-hum in THAT sense.

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@FMF

What is the significance of you asking six times? I told you that in history Jesus manifests the highest state of morality. And I am confident that I am on the right track to believe Christ represents a Perfect Man and a Perfect God.

Are you looking for a chemical formula or a mathematical equation that establishes this ?
I have none.

Now a question to you then.

Does the existence of faith automatically prove what one has faith in is not real and not true ?

I have something like (I say something similar perhaps) to faith that the sun will rise tomorrow.
Now I don't KNOW It. But I have confidence. I trust that it will.

Are your questions aimed to prove that faith in something and that something as a reality, is impossible ?

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@sonship said
What is the significance of you asking six times?
It seems significant to me that you are so evasive.

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@sonship said
I told you that in history Jesus manifests the highest state of morality.
How so?

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@FMF

It seems significant to me that you are so evasive.

The same guy speaks of evasion who would not offer an alternative person in history OR in myth, to Jesus ?

Was evasion significant then ? Oh, that's different ??

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@sonship said
Are your questions aimed to prove that faith in something and that something as a reality, is impossible ?
My questions are aimed at the fact that you seem to have nothing concrete, specific or real to offer about morality. And we know what act by your God figure you tout as "perfect morality". So, maybe it's no surprise that you don't have anything to offer. I repeatedly give you chances to show that you do have something to offer.

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@sonship said
The same guy speaks of evasion who would not offer an alternative person in history OR in myth, to Jesus ?
I addressed this rhetorical gimmick of yours - for the umpteenth time. Did you not read it? I wasn't evasive at all. I tackled your debating device head on.

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@FMF

I offered Jesus as the highest manifestation of moral goodness.

How so?


With English words.
And you didn't challenge with another example.

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@sonship said
I offered Jesus as the highest manifestation of moral goodness.
Why do you attribute "the highest manifestation of moral goodness" to Jesus Christ?

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sonship, I am asking a 'why' question, not a 'who' question.

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@FMF

sonship, I am asking a 'why' question, not a 'who' question.

The who is the why.

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@FMF

Why do you attribute "the highest manifestation of moral goodness" to Jesus Christ?


His words. His actions. His life. His final victory over death.

He is not just good. He is gloriously good.
He is not just righteous. He is righteous with a radiant splendor unmatched by anyone else.

H.G. Wells, no evangelical Christian, said when Jesus opened His mouth He embrace with them the whole world.
He truly was "the light of the world".

More consciences have been touched by the words of Jesus then any other human being, I would wager.
Possibly a second runner up would be Confucius.

But I still think Jesus occupies a class of morally upright people which has one member - Himself.