Originally posted by @eladar
Not at all.

God says that he would harden Pharaoh's heart. No where does it say Pharaoh will reject me and thereby hardening his own heart.

Thanks for proving my point.

Your misunderstanding is constant and complete.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Thanks for proving my point.

Your misunderstanding is constant and complete.

Yes the scripture is so unclear.

The Lord said to Moses, “When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.

Originally posted by @eladar
Yes the scripture is so unclear.

The Lord said to Moses, “When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.

Do you have a point with this? Mind telling us what it is?

Originally posted by @suzianne
Do you have a point with this? Mind telling us what it is?

According to God, who hardend Pharaoh's heart?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
I don't believe it is a paradox, I think it happens the same way each time for us all. If we
are willing to allow God in our hearts can go hard to soft, stone to flesh. If we resist God
we harden our hearts. I believe the reason it says both, because both are true. God acted
and knowing what someone does when they resist his heart was harden, by himself ...[text shortened]... within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.

Good contribution. Thanks for your labors there.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Why would God harden the heart of Pharaoh?

The plagues could have been avoided if Pharaoh utilized his own free will.

God intervened to make sure the plagues happened.

Pharaoh did NOT have free will.
God intervened, and interrupted free will, making sure the plagues would happen, death included.

For what? Plague 10 was death of children. Why? So God could prove a point?

Originally posted by @chaney3
Pharaoh did NOT have free will.
God intervened, and interrupted free will, making sure the plagues would happen, death included.

For what? Plague 10 was death of children. Why? So God could prove a point?

His point was required to bring about his plan.

So even though Pharaoh had no choice and Pharaoh was evil, God is good.

Originally posted by @eladar
His point was required to bring about his plan.

So even though Pharaoh had no choice and Pharaoh was evil, God is good.

Pharaoh would have let the people go after plague #1. He wasn't stupid.

His free will was gone because God hardened his heart.

That's the point.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Why would God harden the heart of Pharaoh?

The plagues could have been avoided if Pharaoh utilized his own free will.

God intervened to make sure the plagues happened.

I believe it was a type of judgment God was putting on the nation of Egypt for killing off the first born of Israel.

Eventually, it would end up being an eye for an eye due to Pharaoh's hardened heart.

Originally posted by @whodey
I believe it was a type of judgment God was putting on the nation of Egypt for killing off the first born of Israel.

Eventually, it would end up being an eye for an eye due to Pharaoh's hardened heart.

But.....God hardened his heart, removing free will.

Meaning: God set in motion, Himself, the destruction and death to follow.

Originally posted by @chaney3
But.....God hardened his heart, removing free will.

Meaning: God set in motion, Himself, the destruction and death to follow.

Removing free will? Who said Pharaoh ever had it. God raised him to that position.

Originally posted by @eladar
Removing free will? Who said Pharaoh ever had it. God raised him to that position.

So you are saying that Pharaoh had NO free will?

He was a pawn?

Then who among us is any different? Hitler?

Originally posted by @chaney3
So you are saying that Pharaoh had NO free will?

He was a pawn?

Then who among us is any different? Hitler?

You have choice, but one hardens your heart, the other does not. You can go one blaming
God if you like, it will not excuse you, but you can do it.

Originally posted by @chaney3
So you are saying that Pharaoh had NO free will?

He was a pawn?

Then who among us is any different? Hitler?

We are all still responsible for our actions.

Originally posted by @eladar
We are all still responsible for our actions.

I disagree.

If God hardens our heart, our choice is removed.

How do you miss this?