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    21 Aug '17 03:12
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I disagree.

    If God hardens our heart, our choice is removed.

    How do you miss this?
    Your opinion really doesn't matter now does it?
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    21 Aug '17 03:31
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Your opinion really doesn't matter now does it?
    Wow. Weak answer.
    Worst I've heard in a while.
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    21 Aug '17 05:00
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I disagree.

    If God hardens our heart, our choice is removed.

    How do you miss this?
    So are you claiming this happened? God has hardened your heart?

    How do you miss that this is just an admission of guilt, for prior choices?
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    21 Aug '17 10:43
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Wow. Weak answer.
    Worst I've heard in a while.
    So you think that in the end God will judge based on your opinion?
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    21 Aug '17 14:12
    Originally posted by @eladar
    So you think that in the end God will judge based on your opinion?
    Part of each of our judgement will be based on our judgements.
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    21 Aug '17 14:29
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    Part of each of our judgement will be based on our judgements.
    What does that mean? Are you saying when god judges he will take input from humans?
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    21 Aug '17 18:01
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    What does that mean? Are you saying when god judges he will take input from humans?
    Yes with what we use on others will be used on us.
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    21 Aug '17 18:11
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    But.....God hardened his heart, removing free will.

    Meaning: God set in motion, Himself, the destruction and death to follow.
    God did not harden his heart to kill off the first born of Israel, God hardened his heart to judge him for it.
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    21 Aug '17 19:32
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    Yes with what we use on others will be used on us.
    There is either life or no life.

    If we choose life who is to say it isn't God who made us to choose life?
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    21 Aug '17 19:39
    Originally posted by @eladar
    There is either life or no life.

    If we choose life who is to say it isn't God who made us to choose life?
    I have to tell you after all the nasty things you said about Jesus, I have a hard time caring what you think.
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    22 Aug '17 01:22
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I have to tell you after all the nasty things you said about Jesus, I have a hard time caring what you think.
    Everything I said is taken directly from the Bible. The fact that you think it is nasty helps to explain why you call an abortion activist and pro homosexual supporter a sister.
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    22 Aug '17 01:35
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    So are you claiming this happened? God has hardened your heart?

    How do you miss that this is just an admission of guilt, for prior choices?
    What I am saying, is that if God hardens a person's heart, then that person will do something that they might NOT have done utilizing their OWN free will.

    God has intervened, and removed free will.
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    22 Aug '17 01:40
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    What I am saying, is that if God hardens a person's heart, then that person will do something that they might NOT have done utilizing their OWN free will.

    God has intervened, and removed free will.
    If you are looking for an excuse to blame God for your bad choices, it will not work.
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    22 Aug '17 01:43
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    If you are looking for an excuse to blame God for your bad choices, it will not work.
    Wow KellyJay.

    What if God hardened my heart?

    Since I cannot stop God from hardening my heart....am I responsible for those actions?
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    22 Aug '17 01:51
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Wow KellyJay.

    What if God hardened my heart?

    Since I cannot stop God from hardening my heart....am I responsible for those actions?
    Yes, because the process is obey or not. When God picks those that He calls, He picks
    the willing, when He is going to display His power in a negative fashion He picks the
    unwilling. In scripture it tells us in the OT and the NT that we pick which way we walk. He
    will use us were we are, and if someone evil turns towards God, the evil will be forgiven
    and grace is applied.

    You keep fighting God you will someday no longer have to fight Him, He will just let you
    be, and leave you towards your own devices as far as they will take you, and where they
    will take you.
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