heaven vs. hell

Originally posted by jaywill
Hell is the same as the word Hades. Strickly speaking Hell or Hades is just the realm of the dead human beings - all of them. I said ALL dead human beings go to Hades (or Hell).

That would include both those who believe is God and have been saved through Christ and those who do not believe in God or who have not been saved. All when they die, have th ...[text shortened]...

Does this answer you question? If not which part does not answer your question?

Hell does not mean hades.

Biblically, they are two separate places.

unbelievers go to hades before the great white throne judgement, and believers go to paradise.

after the judgement, they got to heaven or hell, respectively.

Originally posted by shotgundiplomacy
unbelievers go to hades before the great white throne judgement, and believers go to paradise.

Apparently believers go before the 'Great White Throne of Judgement'
too, according to St Matthew 25.

Nemesio

Please people you have all made something simple complex. Hades which yes a place for all dead is seperate from hell. Put it this way hell and hades are seperate planes of existence entirely. Though they share the same base plane(level) they are still seperate. If you follow one religion you go to what afterlife it dictates in your beliefs. Whatever religion you believe in probably had its figure head (God and such) make both Heaven (and such) and Hell ( and such). Humankind cannot answer this as no one can verify religion.

Personaly as to where I want to go. Neither. I refuse to be gods slave or the devils prisoner. I will create my own nook in existance even if its just a blank space. Your all welcome to join me as I don't wish to contantly praise god or be forever torutured by his former servant. No higher or lower been shall own my soul as another coin in there holy coffers. Whatever religion you believe in don't apply it to me. I believe in all as equal and scorn those that deny the others.

Originally posted by Dracos Chikou
Please people you have all made something simple complex. Hades which yes a place for all dead is seperate from hell. Put it this way hell and hades are seperate planes of existence entirely. Though they share the same base plane(level) they are still seperate. If you follow one religion you go to what afterlife it dictates in your beliefs. Whatever re ...[text shortened]... lieve in don't apply it to me. I believe in all as equal and scorn those that deny the others.

i think he'll just throw you in hell.

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
i think he'll just throw you in hell.

good point if I was christian. Believe in what you wish and I will believe in what i wish.

Originally posted by Dracos Chikou
good point if I was christian. Believe in what you wish and I will believe in what i wish.

i agree, most people arent tolerant of other religions, they try to convert people etc.

Originally posted by zone master
ur all dum asses

you should learn how to spell before you call anyone "dumb".

Originally posted by Nemesio
Apparently believers go before the 'Great White Throne of Judgement'
too, according to St Matthew 25.

Nemesio

Those are a funny kind of believers who didn't know who it was they were treating. They're believing (the sheep) is not in Jesus whom they don't even know.

What they have done to "these" they did to the Lord. But they didn't realize that they were doing it, in either case with the goats or the sheep.

So the people brought before the throne of the Lord's glory in Matthew 25 must be a different case than the judgment of Christians.

The Christians are not with the goats or the sheep. They are with the third group - "these, the least of my brothers."

In the clear glass of a dream, i have glimpsed
the Heaven and Hell that lie in wait for us:
When Judgement Day sounds in the last trumpets
and planet and millenium both
disintegrate, and all at once, O Time,
all your ephemeral pyramids cease to be,
the colors and the lines that trace the past
will in the semidarkness form a face,
a sleeping face, faithful, still, unchangeable
(the face of the loved one, or, perhaps, your own)
and the sheer contemplation of that face--
never-changing, whole, beyond corruption--
will be, for the rejected, an Inferno,
and, for the elected, Paradise.

Jorge Luis Borges, "Of Heaven and Hell"

Originally posted by Wulebgr
In the clear glass of a dream, i have glimpsed
the Heaven and Hell that lie in wait for us:
When Judgement Day sounds in the last trumpets
and planet and millenium both
disintegrate, and all at once, O Time,
all your ephemeral pyramids cease to be,
the colors and the lines that trace the past
will in the semidarkness form a face,
a sleeping face, fa ...[text shortened]... ected, an Inferno,
and, for the elected, Paradise.

Jorge Luis Borges, "Of Heaven and Hell"

i had dreams like that before, but theyre nothing more than dreams obviously, because mine arent the same as his.

Originally posted by shotgundiplomacy
Hell does not mean hades.

Biblically, they are two separate places.

unbelievers go to hades before the great white throne judgement, and believers go to paradise.

after the judgement, they got to heaven or hell, respectively.

Paradise is in Hades.
Paradise is the comfortable section of Hades.


Until Death and Hades are thrown into the lake of fire (Rev. 20) - Paradise is in Hades.

Hell was created by accident, by the guy who invented cellphones. And here we are.