heaven vs. hell

Originally posted by KurtHoegh
Hell was created by accident, by the guy who invented cellphones. And here we are.

Hell-o?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Hell-o?

Hehe.. A rec and a laugh point for that one.

Originally posted by KurtHoegh
Hell was created by accident, by the guy who invented cellphones. And here we are.

test , 1 ,2 ,3

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
i had dreams like that before, but theyre nothing more than dreams obviously, because mine arent the same as his.

Perhaps Borges saw the truth in his dreams and you do not.

Originally posted by Wulebgr
Perhaps Borges saw the truth in his dreams and you do not.

i think your dreams are more symbolical than realistic. i had a dream about the end of the world once too, but that one seemed real.

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
i think your dreams are more symbolical than realistic. i had a dream about the end of the world once too, but that one seemed real.

What could you possibly know about my dreams?

Originally posted by Wulebgr
What could you possibly know about my dreams?

your as in everyone's dreams, not just yours.

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
your as in everyone's dreams, not just yours.

I see. Why not omit the possessive pronoun entirely?

"I think dreams are more symbolic than realistic."

Originally posted by Wulebgr
I see. Why not omit the possessive pronoun entirely?

"I think dreams are more symbolic than realistic."

i think you get the idea.

Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
i think you get the idea.

Yes.


For the record, when a poet, such as Borges, writes of a dream, I don't really think he's referring to an actual dream. Rather, the fiction of the dream is a device to claim spiritual authority for the insight while at the same time creating distance and deniability for the assertion. While I doubt the dream, I think his image of heaven and hell seems more credible than most of what I've heard in church.

Originally posted by Wulebgr
Yes.


For the record, when a poet, such as Borges, writes of a dream, I don't really think he's referring to an actual dream. Rather, the fiction of the dream is a device to claim spiritual authority for the insight while at the same time creating distance and deniability for the assertion. While I doubt the dream, I think his image of heaven and hell seems more credible than most of what I've heard in church.

some people think it is just emptiness, and dark, i think it was "psychics" who believed that i dont remember. i wonder if it is a bad place at all, and just an alternative of heaven.

Originally posted by jaywill
Those are a funny kind of believers who didn't know who it was they were treating. They're believing (the sheep) is not in Jesus whom they don't even know.

What they have done to "these" they did to the Lord. But they didn't realize that they were doing it, in either case with the goats or the sheep.

So the people brought before the throne of the Lo ...[text shortened]... r the sheep. They are with the third group - [b]"these, the least of my brothers." [/b]

Somehow I missed this!

Your assertion, that Christians are in a third group is utterly unsupported
by this story. Note verses 31-33:
When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him,
he will sit upon his glorious throne, and all the nations will be
assembled before him. And he will separate them one from
another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will
place the hseep on his right and the goats on his left.

In 'all nations' and the dividing, there is no mention of a third group.
The 'least' refers (clearly) to the people in need (the hungry, thirsty,
imprisoned, and so forth). As you are expected to love your enemy,
whether a hungry (or naked, or imprisoned) person is a believer or not
is irrelevant; the true Christian is called to love irrespective of the
beliefs of the person's being loved.

So, unless you interpret 'all nations' to mean 'all nations except
Christians' (in which case, you change the meaning of the term), your
stance doesn't hold water.

Nemesio