Hitler

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
And since you believe there are circumstances where lying is acceptable, then the chances of you lying about something could certainly be statistically higher than zero.

Scenario: Someone bent my ear for four hours last night about his pending divorce. I need a break and will let him bend it again in a few days' time because he is dear albeit fragile friend who needs support. He asks me if I'm free tonight. I tell him I'm babysitting and can't come out but I'll be out tomorrow night. I'm not babysitting in fact. The true answer is that I haven't got the appetite to hear him trawl through the same litany of complaints and injustices two nights in a row.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
... the chances of you lying about something could certainly be statistically higher than zero.

The chances of me lying about what?

Originally posted by FMF
Scenario: Someone bent my ear for four hours last night about his pending divorce. I need a break and will let him bend it again in a few days' time because he is dear albeit fragile friend who needs support. He asks me if I'm free tonight. I tell him I'm babysitting and can't come out but I'll be out tomorrow night. I'm not babysitting in fact. The true answer ...[text shortened]... tite to hear him trawl through the same litany of complaints and injustices two nights in a row.

If I recall correctly you said something is immoral if it 'causes pain' is that correct?

Originally posted by FMF
The chances of me lying about what?

About anything that does not cause pain I would imagine.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If I recall correctly you said something is immoral if it 'causes pain' is that correct?

No. Maybe that was someone else. If you are not clued in enough to remember what people say to you in direct dialogues with you then so be it. I shared my thoughts with you at around the time as you were telling us about how your "moral compass" has you believing that someone getting angry with their sibling was equally as "evil" as someone gassing 6,000,000 people in extermination camps and that "perfect justice" is there being the same punishment for both. Ring any bells?

FMF: The chances of me lying about what?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
About anything that does not cause pain I would imagine.

What are you on about? What "pain"? What "chances of [me] lying about something could certainly be statistically higher than zero"? What are you talking about?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If I recall correctly you said something is immoral if it 'causes pain' is that correct?

Was there nothing in my scenario that you thought you might address specifically, in the spirit of discussing something, as it were, aside from simply asking the disingenuous question above? You asked me a question and I answered it head on and then you just ignored it. Here was that scenario:

"Someone bent my ear for four hours last night about his pending divorce. I need a break and will let him bend it again in a few days' time because he is dear albeit fragile friend who needs support. He asks me if I'm free tonight. I tell him I'm babysitting and can't come out but I'll be out tomorrow night. I'm not babysitting in fact. The true answer is that I haven't got the appetite to hear him trawl through the same litany of complaints and injustices two nights in a row."

Originally posted by FMF
No. Maybe that was someone else. If you are not clued in enough to remember what people say to you in direct dialogues with you then so be it. I shared my thoughts with you at around the time as you were telling us about how your "moral compass" has you believing that someone getting angry with their sibling was equally as "evil" as someone gassing 6,000,000 peo ...[text shortened]... on camps and that "perfect justice" is there being the same punishment for both. Ring any bells?

I will look for youe post it may take a while.

Originally posted by chaney3
Have you seen the photos?
It means Hitler's free will is more powerful than God's love.

Have you read the book "The hiding place" it was by someone who lived through that and
show God's love is even greater than that evil.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I will look for youe post it may take a while.

Well I'm not going to go looking for where I discussed morality and the difference between morality and "sin" with you. When you were "economical with the truth", to put it delicately, about something else you insisted I had NOT discussed openly, I went off and found the thread and posted the link and page numbers which you - of course - then just blanked out and ignored, it being rather inconvenient to you. So I'm not going to spend time looking for what it is you are pretending not to remember, and I don't give two hoots if you come back and pretend that you can't find it either. 😉

Originally posted by FMF
No. Maybe that was someone else. If you are not clued in enough to remember what people say to you in direct dialogues with you then so be it. I shared my thoughts with you at around the time as you were telling us about how your "moral compass" has you believing that someone getting angry with their sibling was equally as "evil" as someone gassing 6,000,000 peo ...[text shortened]... on camps and that "perfect justice" is there being the same punishment for both. Ring any bells?

http://www.chessatwork.com/forum/spirituality/absurd-escapism.169581/page-27

It was on the 4th of September last year. Nothing there about your view on when it is moral to lie and when it isn't.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
http://www.chessatwork.com/forum/spirituality/absurd-escapism.169581/page-27

It was on the 4th of September last year. Nothing there about your view on when it is moral to lie and when it isn't.

So you've found a specific time last year when I didn't say something or other? What is the significance of this lack of something in particular being said "on the 4th of September last year"?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I will look for youe post it may take a while.

BUMP

...of all the things I have said ~ questions I've answered, points I've put to you, and illustrations of my point of view I've offered, attempts to move the discussion along ~ which you now seem to have simply ignored and moved on from. 😉

Originally posted by FMF
So you've found a specific time last year when I didn't say something or other? What is the significance of this lack of something in particular being said "on the 4th of September last year"?

You said you shared your views around that time didn't you?

Originally posted by FMF
So you've found a specific time last year when I didn't say something or other? What is the significance of this lack of something in particular being said "on the 4th of September last year"?

On the 8th September last year sir, not once did you mention aubergines.

I think you will agree, I've won this argument.