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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Clearly integrity isn't a part of the morality of your conception of God.
You are clearly still dodging my question.

Is the holocaust objectively evil? Yes or No?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
You are clearly still dodging my question.

Is the holocaust objectively evil? Yes or No?
Clearly integrity isn't a part of the morality of your conception of God.

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Clearly integrity isn't a part of the morality of your conception of God.
And you are clearly still dodging my question.

Is the holocaust objectively evil? Yes or No?

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Clearly integrity isn't a part of the morality of your conception of God.
Are you by any chance assuming that integrity is objectively good? 🙂

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
And you are clearly still dodging my question.

Is the holocaust objectively evil? Yes or No?
Clearly integrity isn't a part of the morality of your conception of God.

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
If you understood the teachings of Jesus while He walked the Earth, you'd have an "unbelief" of much of the NT as well.

Why are you pretending that I've been "concealing" this fact?
If you understood the teachings of Jesus while He walked the Earth, you'd have an "unbelief" of much of the NT as well.
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Starting with the incarnation of the Word that was God or with the resurrection of Christ?


Why are you pretending that I've been "concealing" this fact?

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Well let's first see how you answer the question above, whether straightforwardly or in dark sentences of obfuscation.

Does my naivete start with believing the account of the virgin birth of Christ?
Or am I misunderstanding the Lamb of God Who takes away the sin of the world?
Or is it Christ's resurrection from the dead (recorded in all four gospels) that I misunderstand?

By the way, your treatment of the parable of the ten virgins didn't give me much cause to think you have some superior inside story of Jesus telling that parable.

You could deprive me of my saying you are concealing unbelief if you just came right out and said the virgin birth never happened or the resurrection of Jesus never happened.

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Clearly integrity isn't a part of the morality of your conception of God.
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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Clearly integrity isn't a part of the morality of your conception of God.
Do you believe if someone lacks 'integrity or honesty' it is always wrong regardless of the circumstance? Or does it just happen to be your personal preference in this case?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Do you believe if someone lacks 'integrity or honesty' it is always wrong regardless of the circumstance? Or does it just happen to be your personal preference in this case?
Why are you unable to share your conception of God?

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Why are you unable to share your conception of God?
I have answered about ten of Think of One's questions and he hasn't answered any of mine. I shall consider answering more of his questions when he has answered a couple of mine. At the moment I think he is just taking the piss because he hasn't even attempted to answer any of my questions and yet he seems to just "Think of One" more question rather than provide an answer.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I have answered about ten of Think of One's questions and he hasn't answered any of mine. I shall consider answering more of his questions when he has answered a couple of mine. At the moment I think he is just taking the piss because he hasn't even attempted to answer any of my questions and yet he seems to just "Think of One" more question rather than provide an answer.
Fine. Now i'm asking you just one question:

Why are you unable to share your conception of God?

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Fine. Now i'm asking you just one question:

Why are you unable to share your conception of God?
This is a question you should ask Mary.

On a more serious note how do you interpret Matthew 7:6?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
This is a question you should ask Mary.

On a more serious note how do you interpret Matthew 7:6?
Still you dodge the question.

Could it be that after going on for months about atheists having no absolute concepts of morality and truth, the reality has struck you that you yourself have no absolute concept of God?

Unless you provide your conception of God, this will be the conclusion reached.

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Still you dodge the question.

Could it be that after going on for months about atheists having no absolute concepts of morality and truth, the reality has struck you that you yourself have no absolute concept of God?

Unless you provide your conception of God, this will be the conclusion reached.
Actually this was the point in contention that FMJ keeps dodging.:
Is it possible to have an objective standard for the conception of God?

Societies may impose their conceptions of God on the people within those societies but if two different societies had different conceptions of God how would you ascertain which society had the correct conception of God?


The above is a rewording of the following post by FMJ and substituting "conception[s] of God" for "moral[ity]".
You are saying it is possible to have an objective standard for morality without God. Yet you haven't demonstrated how that is possible. If there is no God, there is no universally correct moral system. Societies may impose their morals on the people within those societies but if two different societies had different morals how would you ascertain which society had the correct morals?

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Still you dodge the question.

Could it be that after going on for months about atheists having no absolute concepts of morality and truth, the reality has struck you that you yourself have no absolute concept of God?

Unless you provide your conception of God, this will be the conclusion reached.
My concept of God is based on the Bible. Nothing gets added or removed from the Bible. It's about as absolute or unchanging as you can get.