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Hitting children.

Hitting children.

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But seriously. Striking is so clumsy. It leaves welts and bruises and other such ugly reminders.

A submission hold only hurts as much as the bad kid needs it to.


@wolfgang59 said
I presume you're not a teacher so your classroom experience is probably
a little less than mine and less than the educational psychologists who
analyse classroom behaviour and produce peer-reviewed papers.

Or maybe not?
A totally naked appeal to authority after a rational point of dissent was raised up.

This is not a good argument and there's nothing to discuss because...

it's not an argument.


@rajk999 said
The kid has not been taught good discipline, and he believes that there is no punishment they can dish out that he fears. Going in the corner for an hour, depriving him of his toys, his snacks, etc is petty punishment for him. According to the bible these parents do not love their kids because they failed to discipline him.
But it's the kids who are spanked at home that act up in public!

And I wouldn't put a kid in a corner for an hour, that's mental cruelty.

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@philokalia said
A totally naked appeal to authority after a rational point of dissent was raised up.
This is not a good argument and there's nothing to discuss because...
it's not an argument.
You need to read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

My argument is not an "argument from authority".
I am arguing based on my experience and the experience of others.

You are arguing based on ... what exactly? Your limited experience of classrooms.


@wolfgang59 said
But it's the kids who are spanked at home that act up in public!

And I wouldn't put a kid in a corner for an hour, that's mental cruelty.
Nonsense. Kids who are spoilt at home act up in public. Foolish parents listen to your socalled experts who know nothing about raising kids and do not follow Gods instructions regard to raising kids.

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@rajk999 said
Nonsense. Kids who are spoilt at home act up in public.
Why are we now talking about "kids who are spoilt at home"?
Is anyone advocating that?


@rajk999 said
Foolish parents listen to your socalled experts
Yeah ... I wonder why we listen to experts instead of consulting the bible ...

duh!


@rajk999 said
Gods instructions regard to raising kids.
Researchers, on the other hand, point out that corporal punishment
typically has the opposite effect, leading to more aggressive behavior
in children and less long-term obedience

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment_in_the_home


@wolfgang59 said
You need to read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

My argument is not an "argument from authority".
I am arguing based on my experience and the experience of others.

You are arguing based on ... what exactly? Your limited experience of classrooms.
You did not provide any argument whatsoever.

If you are so experienced and have such good information, you should be able to use that experience to present to us better arguments, not simply insure us HOW MUCH YOU KNOW BECAUSE, TRUST ME, I KNOW.
It's not an argument.


@philokalia said
You did not provide any argument whatsoever.

If you are so experienced and have such good information, you should be able to use that experience to present to us better arguments, not simply insure us HOW MUCH YOU KNOW BECAUSE, TRUST ME, I KNOW.
It's not an argument.
The arguments are there, and are perfectly rational and succinctly put, you chose not to see them, employing the typically Christian ploy of avoiding difficult questions.

So let's try one. Mr 999 says that it's okay to beat up small kids because it says so in the bible. It also says in the bible that homosexuals should be stoned to death, but he can't make up his mind whether he thinks homosexuals should be stoned to death or not, in other words whether he agrees with the bible or not. (He also says that Christians don't follow the bible, but let's leave that one for now. )

So, question is, do you think the bible is right to advocate stoning to death of homosexuals? Yes or no will do it.


@philokalia said
You did not provide any argument whatsoever.
BECAUSE, TRUST ME, I KNOW.[/i]
I've taught hundreds of kids and researchers have observed tens of thousands.

But YOU KNOW!

Your arrogance is quite profound and nearly matched by your ignorance.


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Wrong. I said no such thing. Since you are a bit slow and very biased, not very smart, I will repeat / clarify what I said.

The advice regarding children are for parents to follow. Being a parent myself I have an interest in these statements in the bible. If I choose to follow them I will be [as far as I am concerned] guided by God.

The advice regarding gays and adulterers is not for the man in the street to follow. These statements are for governments to follow, if they so choose. Some governments choose to follow and some do not. Like I said I dont care either way what governments do, because it does not affect me personally.


@philokalia said
You did not provide any argument whatsoever.

If you are so experienced and have such good information, you should be able to use that experience to present to us better arguments, not simply insure us HOW MUCH YOU KNOW BECAUSE, TRUST ME, I KNOW.
It's not an argument.
You sure? It's one of your favorites.