@wolfgang59 saidI already quoted these passages. Did I say somewhere that the OT does not applhy to Christians ? Im pretty sure I did not. if I did then I meant the LAW OF MOSES does not apply to Christians. I take it you know the difference.
Where are god's instructions regarding raising kids?
(Certainly not in OT which you have said doesn't apply to Christians)
@indonesia-phil saidI understand. Paul said that these kinds of discussions are pointless.
Says the person who contradicts themselves with about everything they say, who fits their beloved bible around whatever they happen to think, but who still won't commit as to whether they think it's okay to stone homosexuals to death, and who thinks beating up kids is fine because their god says it's okay.
I know exactly what I think about acts of violence against children and any kind of discrimination against gays, would you like to borrow a screwdriver?
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, (2 Corinthians 6:14-17 KJV)
@rajk999 saidYou said
I already quoted these passages. Did I say somewhere that the OT does not applhy to Christians ? Im pretty sure I did not. if I did then I meant the LAW OF MOSES does not apply to Christians. I take it you know the difference.
That law was the law that God gave to the Jews.
There is no requirement to follow that law now.
I thought the OT was the laws given to the Jews?
Anyway ... for clarification; your position is that all the OT applies to Christians apart from the laws given to Moses?
And yes I know there is a difference, but not what those differences are.
@wolfgang59 saidThe Torah or what the Greek Septuagint refers to as the Pentateuch is the Law of Moses. They are the first 5 books of the bible. The rest of the Old Testament consists of a history of the Jews, the Wisdom of Solomon and the writings of the Prophets.
You said
That law was the law that God gave to the Jews.
There is no requirement to follow that law now.
I thought the OT was the laws given to the Jews?
Anyway ... for clarification; your position is that all the OT applies to Christians apart from the laws given to Moses?
And yes I know there is a difference, but not what those differences are.
Must of the OT has writings and explanations that are useful to Christians who like to study the bible as it explains much of the New Testament. The teachings of Jesus Christ, and subsequent writings of the Apostless are meant for Christians.
Some countries / governments choose to base their laws on the Law of Moses.
@rajk999 saidSo you follow the OT except for what is written in the first 5 books because that is for Jews only?
The Torah or what the Greek Septuagint refers to as the Pentateuch is the Law of Moses. They are the first 5 books of the bible.
@indonesia-phil saidYes, of course, the Biblical laws were appropriate.
Well, if they used to pardon some of them that makes it alright then.
Let me rephrase the question:
Do you think biblical law was right to permit, under any circumstances, the stoning to death of homosexuals?
I'm not asking you for more biblical quotations, I'm asking for your opinion.
Just as such, the extreme laws which allowed for a son to be killed for disobedience to his parents or bestiality, or for a woman to be executed for grabbing a man's groin during a fight, have a certain application that can be relevant in their contexts.
Same with the "force them to marry their daughter whom they violated" bit. It can produce a wider range of results that are necessary at that time.
@philokalia saidGood tactic to steer the conversation away from assaulting children.
Yes, of course, the Biblical laws were appropriate.
Just as such, the extreme laws which allowed for a son to be killed for disobedience to his parents or bestiality, or for a woman to be executed for grabbing a man's groin during a fight, have a certain application that can be relevant in their contexts.
Same with the "force them to marry their daughter whom they violated" bit. It can produce a wider range of results that are necessary at that time.
@wolfgang59 saidI was actually just responding to a different strain of questioning since I was directly asked.
Good tactic to steer the conversation away from assaulting children.
But by all means, let's return, Wolfgang.
Why is this an incorrect statement?
Usually, children enjoy the attention of the other students, and thus having allies who are entertained by their antics will encourage the behavior.
If the kids are not ignored by their own friends in this case, the teachers approval isn't that important,, IMO.
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@wolfgang59 saidNo. I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ as best as I am able. The writings of the OT is useful for proper understanding of Gods purpose but they are not essential writings / teachings.
So you follow the OT except for what is written in the first 5 books because that is for Jews only?
@philokalia saidWell it isn't incorrect is it if it's just your opinion.
Why is this an incorrect statement?Usually, children enjoy the attention of the other students, and thus having allies who are entertained by their antics will encourage the behavior.
If the kids are not ignored by their own friends in this case, the teachers approval isn't that important,, IMO.
It is however baseless unless you can provide some context as to how you made
these classroom observations and/or what evidence you have for your conclusions.