Originally posted by robbie carrobie2 losses and 1 win. Getting used to the format now.
ok, any wins or are you still getting used to the format? reason i ask is that FM
Morrison whose games i was following stated that it took him two years to get used to
the game after an absence away.
Gotta run, i'm in the process of moving house and have countless things to do,
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou wouldn't raise a hand or a weapon to defend someone from Nazis committing genocide but you would attack a sex offender with a rusty saw?
It also spends zero time discussing killing people with a hand gun, yet the principles are
there for the discerning to note that clearly, it is quite wrong.
If it was up to me, id rid the world of homosexual paedophiles by literal castration.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieas i said to rj its still lumped in with a bunch of other stuff that fall under the catagory of immoral practice, its not given any special attention. yet homosexuality is such a big deal god needs to single it out. i think we would all agree no matter what you think about homosexuality, pedophilia is by far the worse of all immoral behavior and should be said so by god.
does the Bible really not mention paedophilia?
The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology states, for example, that
porneia means “unchastity, harlotry, prostitution, fornication.” It also says: “The
word-group [involving porneia] can describe various extra-marital sexual modes of
behaviour insofar as they deviate from accept ...[text shortened]... er range of other immoral practices outside marriage, such as oral or anal sex
and bestiality.
Originally posted by FMFI have lived long enough to see what you call the morals of society change this way and that way like the wind. My personal moral compass is guided by the teachings of the Christ in whom I trust, and which cannot change. Now that has nothing to do with society, in the sense that my personal definitions are irrelevant to everyone but myself. So a society which encourages [or even turns a blind eye] to homosexual relationships is sinful according to my values but not according their morals, and that is fine with me. Christ will judge. I will say however, that I can live within such a society without any problem. Their sinful values will not influence me.
Then use your word "sin" to describe things you dislike or things you believe you should not do or think. To include in your definition of "immoral acts" behaviour that has no victims and does no harm to others etc., devalues and obfuscates the meaning and application of the word "moral" and "morality". Perceiving and cautioning against what you see as "sin" is ...[text shortened]... ou think there is anything sinful or immoral about their disagreement with you?
Originally posted by stellspalfieI believe that there was no pedophilia back in the time of Christ, so sexual immorality has to do.
possibly, but the homosexuality gets plenty of direct mentions, yet a worse crime is lumped in with many others. surly by mentioning homosexuality directly he is saying that its a bigger issue. i dont think its possible to defend this rj, just hold your hands up and say - "yes stells you have made a good point bordering on genius, i bow down to your sup ...[text shortened]... this issue up with the big fella straight away" and we can save ourselves a day of bickering.
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Originally posted by RJHindsits amazing that you admit you dont know much about ancient history or read much. yet you still feel confident enough to make these sweeping statements!!!
I believe that there was no pedophilia back in the time of Christ, so sexual immorality has to do.
in biblical days men could marry children as soon as they were menstruating, id call that pedophilia, if you think that all men followed the menstruating rule to the letter and no man sold his daughter earlier for a big fat dowry then you are crazier than i thought.
roman history is also littered with acts of pedophilia, it was often used as a form of punishment to a father.
Originally posted by Rajk999I accept what you say; in fact I welcome it. If I were a homosexual I would also accept that you would personally find my lifestyle and my orientation sinful. As it happens, I would - however - find your behaviour immoral if you actively supported discrimination against me because I was a homosexual ["within such a society" as the one we live in]. If - say - you endorsed persecution or imprisonment or unequal treatment of homosexuals, then I would consider that not a moral course of action by you, possibly even more so if you admit that their sinful values do not influence or affect you personally and yet you condoned discrimination anyway. Similarly, if I were to endorse actual discrimination against you for your belief that homosexuality was sinful, then I would not be acting in a morally justifiable way.
I have lived long enough to see what you call the morals of society change this way and that way like the wind. My personal moral compass is guided by the teachings of the Christ in whom I trust, and which cannot change. Now that has nothing to do with society, in the sense that my personal definitions are irrelevant to everyone but myself. So a society whic ...[text shortened]... I can live within such a society without any problem. Their sinful values will not influence me.