-Removed-If you have issues with those things I say, just address me! Gheesh,
it isn't life or death here, we are simply stating views! I hope you are
right, but I do not think you are.
The story of Lazarus isn't about the end time judgement but where these
two guys ended up after they died. There is a matter of life playing out
before we all stand before God and given an account for our lives.
In the story as you correctly point out the rich man speaks to Abraham
who was there to talk to hoping for a little help. None of this goes to what
is coming up when we all stand before God!
It does go to what you were saying when you are dead your dead.
When you are dead you just don't vanish from existence. I'm not sure
where you are getting this we will witness it too, maybe we will the end
of evil will something of an event as all of it gets thrown in the lake of
fire.
Kelly
-Removed-There are several translations out there I could have used Wycliffe Bible
(WYC)! Bottom line, we will not know who is right till it happens, then all
the lines will be drawn, all the choices made, and some will either go
away, or wish they could.
It actually says:
Matthew 25:
45 Then he shall answer to them, and say [saying], Truly I say to you, as long as ye did not to one of these least, neither ye did to me [as long as ye did not to one of these least, ye did not to me].
46 And these shall go into everlasting torment; but the just men shall go into everlasting life.
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Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.”
And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He *said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” Then He said to me, “ It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost. He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
(Revelation 21:1-8 NASB)
Originally posted by Kevin Lee PoracanI think this is better over on the thread about knowing our human spirit perhaps?
Abraham“…And there he built an altar to Jehovah and called upon the name of Jehovah” (Gen. 12:8).
Isaac“And he built an altar there and called upon the name of Jehovah…”(Gen. 26:25).
Samson“And Samson called on Jehovah and said, O Lord Jehovah…”(Judges 16:28).
Samuel“And Samuel called to Jehovah…” (1 Sam. 12:18).
David“I call upon Je ...[text shortened]... of the peoples into a pure
language that they may call upon the name of Jehovah” (Zeph. 3:9).
Then again it is good for this thread too.
Thanks KLP.
Originally posted by KellyJaySeveral side by side translations are best. But it is not wise to ignore the books of the Septuagint if you are interested in fuller understanding.
So what translation do you accept? I tend to lean toward the NIV, but
when studying scripture I'll look at several when I'm studing a passage.
Kelly