18 Dec 05
Originally posted by Will EverittAs much as I love to stir up a heated debate, and even though I have christian friends and family (some of them really messed up - every single discussion you have with them ends up being about praising Jesus and father the almighty - although I love them all dearly), I think the reason they've labeled me generally confused (and it's not just christians doing this), is because... well, I guess I am...
Are the people who label you as confused christians?
There are so many things in life that I really don't know anything about. The best I can do is speculate. Sometimes, to my astonishment (being the perfection of nature that I am), I realize that things aren't the way I thought. That's when I become confused and start to speculate some more. More increases on all levels, and so... I could be labeled generally confused.
Although I do like nordlys' suggestion of unlabelable. It has a nicer ring to it (except for it being so hard to pronounce).
Hope I didn't just kill this thread now with my tedious bladdering. 🙂
18 Dec 05
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Originally posted by Nordlys😵
If you have bladder problems, you'd better go and see a doctor. 😉
Ok, I'll go now... Or I'll just change my diper...
[May I just say that those pictures you've taken of norrsken (in swedish) are beautiful. I've just skimmed through them. They must be very common in Bodø. I live in middle Sweden and we hardly ever see them.]
19 Dec 05
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesThere is nothing arbitrary about it - Pope simply means Papa or Father. A female Father is as nomologically impossible as a male Mother.
A male mother is a nomological impossibility.
A female Pope is not. The Church has arbitrarily made it a logical impossibility by its definition of Pope.
19 Dec 05
Originally posted by lucifershammerOh no, ha ha... Lucifer? You just went haloop on your logical self, didn't you? 😵
There is nothing arbitrary about it - Pope simply means Papa or Father. A female Father is as nomologically impossible as a male Mother.
The difference is clear. While we can't change our physical selfs... oh... no... we can nowadays, can't we?.. gaaahh...
Well, anyway, my point being, a male mother is impossible by nature, whereas it's really quite simple to change the title of the pope as needed to include femails in the equation. See?..
19 Dec 05
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Originally posted by stockenOur sex is not just a physical reality - it is a spiritual reality as well. Motherhood and fatherhood are not just biological events - they are spiritual events as well.
Oh no, ha ha... Lucifer? You just went haloop on your logical self, didn't you? 😵
The difference is clear. While we can't change our physical selfs... oh... no... we can nowadays, can't we?.. gaaahh...
Well, anyway, my point being, a male mother is impossible by nature, whereas it's really quite simple to change the title of the pope as needed to include femails in the equation. See?..
EDIT: Simply changing the title of Pope does not make you Pope, any more than calling yourself Elizabeth II's son makes you one.
19 Dec 05
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Originally posted by lucifershammerCorrect me if I'm wrong, but I thought the discussion had become (in violation of the thread) a matter of whether or not there can be female (physically speaking) popes. You seem to claim that there can't be. I disagree. Just change the title, and any female is just as capable as some men to be popes.
Our sex is not just a physical reality - it is a spiritual reality as well. Motherhood and fatherhood are not just biological events - they are spiritual events as well.
EDIT: Simply changing the title of Pope does not make you Pope, any more than calling yourself Elizabeth II's son makes you one.
-- would that be a mome, or what?