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Originally posted by twhiteheadSin.
Could anyone enlighten me? What exactly do you get saved from once you have found the way?
Originally posted by twhiteheadChrist said that he that sins becomes a slave of sin. However, he came to set us free from such sin. Now does this mean that the believer never sins? No, however, we need not continue in such or habitually practice such sin if Christ can set us free. I can also personally attest that sinning by in large looses its appeal. Sins that once seemed "fun" later make you miserable once Christ has come and changed you from within. There is nothing more miserable than a backslidden Christian.
So if you are baptized or believe in God or profess to believe in him or whatever the special technique is, then you no longer sin? Or is sin an entity or something?
Originally posted by whodeyWell said!
Christ said that he that sins becomes a slave of sin. However, he came to set us free from such sin. Now does this mean that the believer never sins? No, however, we need not continue in such or habitually practice such sin if Christ can set us free. I can also personally attest that sinning by in large looses its appeal. Sins that once seemed "fun" late ...[text shortened]... in the sacrifice of Christ so that he may wash us of our sins and deliever us from our sins.
Originally posted by whodeyI still don't understand. I thought sin was simply 'disobeying God' or 'going against Gods will'. Now we are 'slaves to sin' and need to be 'delivered from sin' etc etc.
Christ said that he that sins becomes a slave of sin. However, he came to set us free from such sin. Now does this mean that the believer never sins? No, however, we need not continue in such or habitually practice such sin if Christ can set us free. I can also personally attest that sinning by in large looses its appeal. Sins that once seemed "fun" late ...[text shortened]... in the sacrifice of Christ so that he may wash us of our sins and deliever us from our sins.
Originally posted by twhiteheadSaved is just a term for "I will try and do what God tells me!"
I still don't understand. I thought sin was simply 'disobeying God' or 'going against Gods will'. Now we are 'slaves to sin' and need to be 'delivered from sin' etc etc.
Why all the complicated language when what you really mean is 'God wants you to do what you are told'. Why spend a whole thread discussing how to be 'saved' when what you really mean is ...[text shortened]... m what I first thought? Why cant you simply use plain English in the first place?
Originally posted by gaychessplayerSome Christian fundamentalists interpret that verse as a licence to do whatever they want as long as they are believers. It's convenient because you don't have to make an effort to be saved.
Sorry, but this simple mind doesn't understand your point.
Originally posted by Kevin McfarlandI don't know where you heard this but some sects like the Church of Christ (USA and UK) use this as a teaching but misinterpret scripture.
Has anyone ever herd that you have to be baptized in water in the name of Jesus and then get the holly ghost to be saved? according to the bible?? These were the scriptures given John 3.5 matt 28.19 Acts2.36-39. Just trying to get some input on this? Maybe see what u bible guys have to say on this thanks 🙂 Kevin
Originally posted by twhiteheadThe reason for your confusion is that the bible uses the word "sin" in two different ways. The act of transgression is "sin" (lower case), and the power of sin active in the flesh is "Sin" (upper case). Through a person's faith in Jesus Christ God forgives every act of transgression (sin) - past, present, and future - and also delivers that person from the power of Sin (the fallen nature).
I still don't understand. I thought sin was simply 'disobeying God' or 'going against Gods will'. Now we are 'slaves to sin' and need to be 'delivered from sin' etc etc.
Why all the complicated language when what you really mean is 'God wants you to do what you are told'. Why spend a whole thread discussing how to be 'saved' when what you really mean is ...[text shortened]... m what I first thought? Why cant you simply use plain English in the first place?