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Originally posted by KellyJay
Where do you get God says do not kill?
How do you know God said that and it isn't part of the illusionary world?
If this world is illusionary, and so too the life and death, but would it really matter, if this is
all an illusion? As you say according to you its not absolute and lasting, so who cares
what you do and how you do it?

It it doesn't matter what difference does it make if I enjoy a steak or not?
This is your lusty tongue speaking and not your pure spiritual intelligence.

You know what they say.................a lusty tongue leads to a lusty life of degradation starting with animal slaughter and meat eating..

What ever happened to mercy, kindness, compassion and meekness.

Remember: The meek shall inherit the earth.........(guess that rules out Christians.

The good shepherd is suppose to care for his flock and not KILL IT and EAT IT

And remember.............

Blessed are the meek: for they shall possess the earth.

Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill.

Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God.

Blesses are the peacemakers: for they shall be called children of God.

OH: I almost forgot ...........THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

So Kelly Jay: God has been very clear on the subject of animal cruelty and slaughter.

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Originally posted by Dasa
This is your lusty tongue speaking and not your pure spiritual intelligence.

You know what they say.................a lusty tongue leads to a lusty life of degradation starting with animal slaughter and meat eating..

What ever happened to mercy, kindness, compassion and meekness.

Remember: The meek shall inherit the earth.........(guess that rules out ...[text shortened]... KILL.

So Kelly Jay: God has been very clear on the subject of animal cruelty and slaughter.
Jesus made it clear that the commandment was do not murder people. Jesus was the good shepard who gave His life to save His flock (Christians and Jews that will become Christians).

"I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep."

(John 10:11 NASB)
"I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep.

(John 10:14-15 NASB)

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Originally posted by moonbus
... in the universe, why is there so much wasted space in it? It's about 99% empty (and getting more so, expanding at near light speed). Seems very inefficient. One planet and one sun would have sufficed to cover the creation story in Genesis. Any ideas?
The heavens tell the glory of God.

He fixed the heaves to tell times and seasons.

The pleasure of creating.

A few quick thoughts.

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Originally posted by Dasa
This is your lusty tongue speaking and not your pure spiritual intelligence.

You know what they say.................a lusty tongue leads to a lusty life of degradation starting with animal slaughter and meat eating..

What ever happened to mercy, kindness, compassion and meekness.

Remember: The meek shall inherit the earth.........(guess that rules out ...[text shortened]... KILL.

So Kelly Jay: God has been very clear on the subject of animal cruelty and slaughter.
So you want to use the Bible to support your views on eating animals?
Do you use the Bible to support all the other things it has to say on eating as well as
God and other topics?

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Originally posted by KellyJay
So you want to use the Bible to support your views on eating animals?
Do you use the Bible to support all the other things it has to say on eating as well as
God and other topics?
Are cheeseburgers kosher?

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Originally posted by KellyJay
So you want to use the Bible to support your views on eating animals?
Do you use the Bible to support all the other things it has to say on eating as well as
God and other topics?
I believe Dasa gets his views from the so-called Vedic scriptures and from the profound words of spiritual leaders like the self realized soul, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Are cheeseburgers kosher?
You heard about the Jewish dilemma?

Free pork.......

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Are cheeseburgers kosher?
If you do not see any blood in the cheeseburger, then it is kosher. 😏

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How small? Presumably the entire universe once fit into a space no bigger than a pin point. That was efficient! The question now, I guess, is, is it getting more efficient simply for getting bigger (at near light speed)? And how would we measure increased efficiency as a function of increased size?

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Originally posted by moonbus
How small? Presumably the entire universe once fit into a space no bigger than a pin point. That was efficient! The question now, I guess, is, is it getting more efficient simply for getting bigger (at near light speed)? And how would we measure increased efficiency as a function of increased size?
Efficiency is the wrong word. Power density or energy density is more like it. When the universe was the size of an electron, the energy content is the same as it is now, 14 odd billion years later, just spread a bit thinner.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
When the universe was the size of an electron, the energy content is the same as it is now, 14 odd billion years later, just spread a bit thinner.
"spread a bit thinner" !!!
Like Kojak's hair you mean.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Are cheeseburgers kosher?
No, you don't get to mix dairy and meat...at least that was the way it was when I was in
Israel. They don't have cheeseburgers on the menu even at McDonalds but they will sell
them to you if you ask. I also don't concern myself with Kosher, but would honor it if
someone came to my house.

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Originally posted by Dasa
This is your lusty tongue speaking and not your pure spiritual intelligence.

You know what they say.................a lusty tongue leads to a lusty life of degradation starting with animal slaughter and meat eating..

What ever happened to mercy, kindness, compassion and meekness.

Remember: The meek shall inherit the earth.........(guess that rules out ...[text shortened]... KILL.

So Kelly Jay: God has been very clear on the subject of animal cruelty and slaughter.
It appears you are making up things that are supposed to be in the Bible....lusty tongue?
With respect to animal cruelty, they eat each other while they are alive.
The scripture thou shalt not kill, closer English translation is murder and has to do with
human killing human not animals.
You have to come up with scripture that goes to the topic at hand, using it as you are
really doesn't address the topic.


Originally posted by RJHinds
I believe Dasa gets his views from the so-called Vedic scriptures and from the profound words of spiritual leaders like the self realized soul, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
He should quote that instead of take Biblical scripture out of context to make a point.