26 Jul '14 08:12>1 edit
Originally posted by Rank outsiderIn addition, the phrase 'eternal life' is clearly set up linguistically to contrast with what happens to the rest.
As an 'outside observer', nothing in what you have cited states that humans will be tortured forever.
When someone is executed in countries still barbaric enough to have the death penalty, is that deprival of life a punishment?
If so, is that punishment temporary or permanent?
If you chuck a human into a lake of fire, will they die?
Might a ...[text shortened]... tant to get this right, so if your interpretation is right, God was a pretty shoddy draughtsman.
The most natural 'opposite' to 'eternal life' is 'permanent death' which is also what the Bible almost immediately goes on to call it.
It is not natural to contrast 'eternal life' with some form of continued existence which is of a different nature.
If God had meant this, surely a phrase like 'eternal bliss' would have been better to contrast with 'eternal torment'.
You really have to contort this passage both semantically and contextually to reach this conclusion.
As well, of course, to assume that God is the most evil creature that has ever existed. Which I didn't think was the point.