Is consciousness an illusion?

@mike69 said
Are you going to apologize for your hate towards me?

@fmf said
There is, indeed, far too much of it.

@mike69 said
Then why are you promoting more when you started attacking my personhood if you feel this way? Not to mention my faith which you jumped the gun on and went way overboard on me even if it was funny.

@fmf said
There has been no "hate" towards you.

@mike69 said
Outrage manufacturer 😂😂. You’re a lying joke who doesn’t answer anything yet expects the world from everyone else when replying to you and you all wise and proper words.. it doesn’t matter how you personally write anything, a lying flake is a lying flake and everyone sees you. Why are you so unhappy inside, making a change starts with you it’s not easy but try and get your mind out of that fishbowl.

@fmf said
There has been no "hate".

Disagreeing with you on a debate forum or drawing contrasts between what you believe and what I believe is not "hate".

Your "personhood" has not been "attacked".

I mentioned your faith because this is a Spirituality Forum and, if you are a Christian, and I take your word for it, then I know full well that your faith is a prism through which you see every moral and philosophical question.

@mike69 said
So that was you being nice judging me without a question on the other thread. Don’t forget all the kind words you spoke here without asking a question first? What’s funny is you worry about a left out question mark and don’t mind not asking one before judging and going overboard. Should we all just accept what you say here because you’re so smart. Why the high almighty act you put on all the time, does it make you feel important when you’re not at home?

@mike69 said
What’s funny is you worry about a left out question mark

@mike69 said
Should we all just accept what you say here because you’re so smart. Why the high almighty act you put on all the time, does it make you feel important when you’re not at home?

@fmf said
I'm not interested in your banter.

@mike69 said
You sure as hell aren’t interested in answering anything either have a good one FMF. Sorry things didn’t work out with your manufactured bs, you should change that.

It's interesting how one can spend a few thoughtful moments writing some contributions to a thread, and then you have posters like josephw, mike69 and Suzianne who swoop in determined to play the man rather than the ball.

@vivify said
What is the "world" to a fish in a fishbowl? It's entire world is that fishbowl and it has no ability to realize there's a world outside of it. Sure, it can see through the glass but can it understand that it's actually looking at images beyond its walls? Or does it regard them the same way early humans thought the stars were part of Earth's sky like clouds?

@fmf said
The more pertinent thing about a goldfish in a bowl is that it has a problem with memory. Consciousness with little or no memory would be very rudimentary and not humanlike. Our access to our memories and ability to analyze them lies at the very core of our conscience and ability to govern how we interact with others.

@mike69 said
Yes it’s used for that as individuals, in our individual family ~local consciousness, beliefs, and basic construct for a set of interactions that exist in each of our personal goldfish bowls. This limits interactions with other systems and types of fish to what is seen and heard combined with each environment. How do we arise to a collective consciousness where we understand ...[text shortened]... eractions and on are formed and nurtured in each of our little tanks comparably. Agree or disagree?