1. Standard memberKellyJay
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    09 Jul '18 09:10
    Originally posted by @js357
    Who/what are you responding to?
    Everyone
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    09 Jul '18 09:19
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    The Lord is always just.

    He accepts all who act justly observing the spirit of the Law.
    For you its the righteous by their obeying the law?
  3. Standard memberKellyJay
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    09 Jul '18 09:28
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    I do not get involved in specific sins and specific repentance, neither specific good works and the quantity of the good works [like you are fond of doing]. Jesus is the judge of that. However I will say that this thing people call deathbed conversions is a pile of nonsense. Only God knows whose repentance is genuine or otherwise.
    So you don't get involved because Jesus is the judge, but deathbed conversions you know
    not Jesus?
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    09 Jul '18 09:38
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    For you its the righteous by their obeying the law?
    ? Come again ?
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    09 Jul '18 12:053 edits
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    My excuse for not stating my allegence to Jesus the way you do?

    Is that what you mean?
    Strongest examples of textural corruption please.

    Give us two strongest examples of an original teaching written in the Bible followed by the corruption of the text that subsequently altered the original meaning in years after the original was written.

    I will be looking carefully to see how your two most striking specimens effects any major tenet of the Christian faith.

    I'll limit it for you to make it manageable.
    Restrict your specimens to the NT books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John

    (If you didn't know, there are English translations which have in the margins a record of variants known in other manuscripts of the same book, ie, Rotheram's Emphasized Bible )
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    09 Jul '18 12:12
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    So you don't get involved because Jesus is the judge, but deathbed conversions you know
    not Jesus?
    Deathbed conversions are those where a man prior to dying is converted and he is baptised. The pastor then tells the man that he is saved and he has eternal life. This type of deathbed conversions is a sham and pastors who do this are frauds.

    If you cannot understand then I cannot help you further.
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    09 Jul '18 12:20
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    ? Come again ?
    Not clear what you meant so I was trying to clarify.
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    09 Jul '18 12:231 edit
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Deathbed conversions are those where a man prior to dying is converted and he is baptised. The pastor then tells the man that he is saved and he has eternal life. This type of deathbed conversions is a sham and pastors who do this are frauds.

    If you cannot understand then I cannot help you further.
    It is just you said it was up to Jesus then you turn around and say these are all not true. So it isn’t up to Jesus for them to be saved, because you know?
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    09 Jul '18 12:37
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    If God accepts one and rejects another is He fair?
    By human standards no. In other words by Satan's standards no
  10. Standard memberKellyJay
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    09 Jul '18 12:46
    Originally posted by @eladar
    By human standards no. In other words by Satan's standards no
    I don’t agree that those two are the same but they do line up in agreement quite a bit.
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    09 Jul '18 13:14
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I don’t agree that those two are the same but they do line up in agreement quite a bit.
    Human is natural. Natural is in opposition to the spirit. Natural is of Satan.
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    09 Jul '18 13:42
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Strongest examples of textural corruption please.

    Give us two strongest examples of an [b]original teaching written
    in the Bible followed by the corruption of the text that subsequently altered the original meaning in years after the original was written.

    I will be looking carefully to see how your two most striking specimens effect ...[text shortened]... variants known in other manuscripts of the same book, ie, Rotheram's Emphasized Bible )[/b]
    I was asking yes/no questions .

    I'm not going to debate scripture with you when you can't even reconcile with other Christians here.
    Call this a dodge, I don't care
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    09 Jul '18 14:09
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Human is natural. Natural is in opposition to the spirit. Natural is of Satan.
    I almost agree but nature was created by God and perverted by man.
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    09 Jul '18 14:31
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Kelly's a guy
    You misunderstood the post. Kelly already educated me on his gender. He doesn't get bent out of shape about this, to his credit.
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    09 Jul '18 14:36
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I almost agree but nature was created by God and perverted by man.
    Why are you blaming mankind for for the faults of what created us? There seems to be an opaque wall between you and reality.
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