Originally posted by @karoly-aczelCorrect. The real followers of Christ understand the message of Christ
Kelly thinks he can dictate terms. Lol. As if some public approval of his frankly terrible message would make it any more tenable .
This is not a game of who has the bigger weiner.
This is getting at the essence of all that is good and virtuous in the world.
This is for those who are brave and take life on.
We are supposed to be helping each other people
Righteousness and good works / love for others = eternal life in the Kingdom of God
Originally posted by @rajk999Yes you made a point throwing together things I have said but not the way I said them.
No thanks. My point is made.
You are a faith only person.
You are saved by faith, is your claim
You say you will do good works
Nowhere does the Bible say that every faithful Christian does good works
That is totally false.
Faithful Christians are warned that they MUST DO GOOD WORKS otherwise there is no eternal life.
So something is wrong with your doctrine... and you too for not reading the bible
Originally posted by @rajk999There is only one who is good and the only way we can do good works is to carry out the work God has put into us.
You denouce good works.
Statements like:
- good works is trying to earn your salvation.
- Jesus condemned good works
And other similar nonsensical statements which Jesus never said
If you believe purely human actions can be good works, you have not understood the Bible.
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Originally posted by @rajk999I am saved by grace, through faith in Christ Jesus.
No thanks. My point is made.
You are a faith only person.
You are saved by faith, is your claim
You say you will do good works
Nowhere does the Bible say that every faithful Christian does good works
That is totally false.
Faithful Christians are warned that they MUST DO GOOD WORKS otherwise there is no eternal life.
So something is wrong with your doctrine... and you too for not reading the bible
Originally posted by @kellyjayPaul said it.
Did Jesus say that or is that you stringing together things you think are connected?
Eph 2 - Saved
Eph 3 and 4 - Do good works and live righteosly
Eph 5 - Eternal life IF you live righteously.
You really cannot read.
How many times have I quoted Paul
You rather not read the truth. You rather swallow the garbage from the church pastor
Originally posted by @rajk999What church pastor? You once again making something up?
Paul said it.
Eph 2 - Saved
Eph 3 and 4 - Do good works and live righteosly
Eph 5 - Eternal life IF you live righteously.
You really cannot read.
How many times have I quoted Paul
You rather not read the truth. You rather swallow the garbage from the church pastor
Originally posted by @eladarAye
There is only one who is good and the only way we can do good works is to carry out the work God has put into us.
If you believe purely human actions can be good works, you have not understood the Bible.
Originally posted by @rajk999So you string Paul’s words together too, and you do it without actually directly quoting them. Hard to show you are quoting things properly if you just say you are but without proof.
Paul said it.
Eph 2 - Saved
Eph 3 and 4 - Do good works and live righteosly
Eph 5 - Eternal life IF you live righteously.
You really cannot read.
How many times have I quoted Paul
You rather not read the truth. You rather swallow the garbage from the church pastor
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyAnother Christian that cannot read.
So "Eph 2 - Saved" doesn't actually mean "saved."
What do they do with you people?
Do you have your brains removed after baptism?
Originally posted by @rajk999John 15
Jesus said no such thing.
“I am the true vine and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.