Originally posted by checkbaiterRegeneration and the act of 'making Christ Lord over your life' are two separate and distinct matters.
Then I would say there was no regeneration. You never really made him Lord over your life.
The Bible says the regeneration takes place when Christ returns:
Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
You make Christ Lord over your life at the point of baptism and thereafer you vow to follow His commandments.
Originally posted by Rajk999It doesn't matter, his next statement contradicts this question so it is invalid.
I have repeatedly said that this is not a personal matter.
DONT ASK AND DONT TELL.
If you can proceed along these lines of respecting each others privacy I will continue otherwise I would not discuss.
IF you rephrase the question to a general one that would be fine.
He asks if you don't sin anymore then states that if you sin or have the temptation to sin then you haven't really accepted Christ as your lord. You can't have it both ways!
Originally posted by MISTER CHESSCorrect .. but I bet he has a way around that contradiction. Something about Christians do not sin or more correctly their sins dont matter. Lets see ,,
It doesn't matter, his next statement contradicts this question so it is invalid.
He asks if you don't sin anymore then states that if you sin or have the temptation to sin then you haven't really accepted Christ as your lord. You can't have it both ways!
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What I don't get is why somebody who calls themself a christian and has accepted Jesus but still falls to his temptations(gambling, drugs, theft etc etc and not necessarily all of them) should make it into the new kingdom where somebody who is good (minimal sins only) their whole life but has not should be condemned.
You should have to be above the bar on both counts or it is pointless IMO.
Originally posted by MISTER CHESSSo you believe you must be sinless after you are forgiven?
What I don't get is why somebody who calls themself a christian and has accepted Jesus but still falls to his temptations(gambling, drugs, theft etc etc and not necessarily all of them) should make it into the new kingdom where somebody who is good (minimal sins only) their whole life but has not should be condemned.
You should have to be above the bar on both counts or it is pointless IMO.
I'd like for you to be clear on this point, from the time you accept Christ
if you sin one time after that, have a lustful thought, hate someone, call
someone a fool, anything that goes against your conscious you just
rendered yourself as unworthy? This is your idea of what goes on when
a sinner asks God to forgive him?
Kelly
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Originally posted by KellyJayCould u point me to exactly where I say that?
So you believe you must be sinless after you are forgiven?
I'd like for you to be clear on this point, from the time you accept Christ
if you sin one time after that, have a lustful thought, hate someone, call
someone a fool, anything that goes against your conscious you just
rendered yourself as unworthy? This is your idea of what goes on when
a sinner asks God to forgive him?
Kelly
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo who is paying for your sins now?
Christ was sinless, what are you saying? There is a distinction between involuntary sins and wilful unrepentant sinning, for the former, Christ propitiatory sacrifice covers it, for the latter, there is no more any sacrifice left, they impale the Christ again and treat his sacrifice as nothing.
Originally posted by Rajk999Everyone sins every day. How do you reconcile your present and future sins, since there is no more sacrifice?
The law of Christ now applies. What is all tbat about sacrificing cattle?
Do you really understand the teachings of Christ?
This thread is about Christ .. or did it read it wrong.
What exactly of what Christ said pertaining to eternal life do you actually accept.
He said to love God and love your neighbour as yourself. Is that correct doctrine?
...[text shortened]... ll the cows come home , rape and killl 6 yr olds, steal and etc etc and still get eternal life ?
Originally posted by Rajk999I'm not asking for specifics here, I am only asking how these sins are paid for now?
I have repeatedly said that this is not a personal matter.
DONT ASK AND DONT TELL.
If you can proceed along these lines of respecting each others privacy I will continue otherwise I would not discuss.
IF you rephrase the question to a general one that would be fine.