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Is Jesus of New T LORD/Jehovah of the Old T?

Is Jesus of New T LORD/Jehovah of the Old T?

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Originally posted by galveston75
LOl. Don't give up Manny. Go over to the Holy Spirit forum for a few more thoughts on this.
Those scriptures are some of the most foundational scriptures for showing who Christ really is.




Manny

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
in the spirit of Jesus' immortal words "love thy enemy". Ok?
You are not my enemy. You are my brother in Jesus. And I love you.

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Anyone that cannot tell the difference between the Christ and the Almighty is in
series difficulty for they are then presented with a whole host of insurmountable
problems,

1.the fact that no one has seen God at any time, yet many persons saw the Christ

2. the fact that God cannot die, yet this was the very reason that the Christ came to
the earth, to give his life

3. the fact that God has no beginning and no end, whereas the Christ was the
first-born of creation, having a beginning

4. the fact that Gods name Jehovah is unique to the almighty

and so it goes on and on, if you cannot clearly distinguish between two persons,
how will you identify the character of either?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Anyone that cannot tell the difference between the Christ and the Almighty is in
series difficulty for they are then presented with a whole host of insurmountable
problems,

1.the fact that no one has seen God at any time, yet many persons saw the Christ

2. the fact that God cannot die, yet this was the very reason that the Christ came to ...[text shortened]... cannot clearly distinguish between two persons,
how will you identify the character of either?
Don't forget Proverbs 30:4

"Who has ascended into heaven and descended?
Who has gathered the wind in His fists?
Who has wrapped the waters in His garment?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is His name or His son's name?
Surely you know!" (NASB)

And it is not Jehovah!

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"Reply" is not the right word. The only purpose your posts serve is as a springboard for me to launch into what are essentially my own monologues. As I never really have any interest in what it is you may or may not be saying, I'm not "replying" to your posts so much as I am using them as a convenient excuse to propound on my own thoughts.

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Originally posted by Seitse
You are not my enemy. You are my brother in Jesus. And I love you.
Well then I will assume that your past nastiness to me was an abberation and take you back as a neutral in my books.
My altruistic nature will tell me that you recognize what I am on about and the fact you said you love me shall suffice instead of an apology.
You are forgiven. Peace brother.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Anyone that cannot tell the difference between the Christ and the Almighty is in
series difficulty for they are then presented with a whole host of insurmountable
problems,

1.the fact that no one has seen God at any time, yet many persons saw the Christ

2. the fact that God cannot die, yet this was the very reason that the Christ came to ...[text shortened]... cannot clearly distinguish between two persons,
how will you identify the character of either?
"God" has many names.
Which is correct, (or more accurate), is prolly not as important as the spiritual import on ones "soul" .
After all words can be used by anyone, it is through our actions that we define our faiths.
If it comforts you to call It Jehova, then good....I guess

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Originally posted by finnegan
And of course the New Testament was written by Christians to set out their beliefs so it is not too surprising if it should contain confirmation of the fulfilment of the prophecies in their very account. Now is that not blindingly obvious?
I've heard this arguement before. After all, reading bits of Isaiah is like reading the gospels.

So did the early church write the NT to mimic the OT? One thing is for certain, and that is Daniel 9:24-27 provides a bit of a problem for such a theory. After all, it is a calendar pointing right to the time of Christ and the coming of the Messiah.

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Originally posted by whodey
I've heard this arguement before. After all, reading bits of Isaiah is like reading the gospels.

So did the early church write the NT to mimic the OT? One thing is for certain, and that is Daniel 9:24-27 provides a bit of a problem for such a theory. After all, it is a calendar pointing right to the time of Christ and the coming of the Messiah.
Paul was a Pharisee and well versed in the OT. Luke was clearly pretty well read in the same way and relished inserting appropriate supporting links. If they set out their opinions in a way that reflects the OT that is not a big deal by way of evidence.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Anyone that cannot tell the difference between the Christ and the Almighty is in
series difficulty for they are then presented with a whole host of insurmountable
problems,

1.the fact that no one has seen God at any time, yet many persons saw the Christ

2. the fact that God cannot die, yet this was the very reason that the Christ came to ...[text shortened]... cannot clearly distinguish between two persons,
how will you identify the character of either?
Isaiah 6

Isaiah's Vision

1In the year of King Uzziah's death I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, lofty and exalted, with the train of His robe filling the temple.


Very simple Who did Isaiah see? He says "I saw the Lord sitting on a throne" So either the bible is wrong or Isaiah is lying. Yes it was a vision but you or I have no clue as to what a true vision from God is. He saw God and became afraid and rightfully so.

Manny

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2. the fact that God cannot die, yet this was the very reason that the Christ came to
the earth, to give his life


Jesus died a physical death but it did not hold him and He rose again so We can assert that Christ could be God. Physical death does not mean absolute death.


Manny


It is amusing how non-Christians take so much interest
and devote so much time and effort to Christ, Christians
and Christianity.

Indeed, the King of Kings shakes the very foundations of
every human being, one way or another. If we all could
only let Him in our hearts, what a world this would be.

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