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    @FMF

    It all begins and ends in your mind. What you give power to, has power over you, if you allow it.


    The mind of course plays a crucial part in why people have different opinions about all kinds of matters. That would include world views, philosophies, and religious beliefs.

    I think being captive or kind of enslaved to something in the mind can cause some people to live in the past their whole life.
    Certain events they continually look back to and remember how they felt.

    Some cases of perpetual offense or woundedness enslave them. Conversations with them often regard attention being drawn to past encounters which seem like fresh offenses never to be forgotten.

    In this case Brown's quote is apt.

    “Bitterness is a result of clinging to negative experiences. It serves you no good, and closes the door to your future.”
    ― Leon Brown
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    16 Oct '18 03:15
    @sonship said
    I think being captive or kind of enslaved to something in the mind can cause some people to live in the past their whole life.
    Do you think Muslims for example are "enslaved to something in the mind" and that Christians are not?
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    @sonship said
    “Bitterness is a result of clinging to negative experiences. It serves you no good, and closes the door to your future.”
    You already put this one to me and I responded. But you blanked out my response. You want me to respond again? What about when I responded before?
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    @sonship said
    Some cases of perpetual offense or woundedness enslave them. Conversations with them often regard attention being drawn to past encounters which seem like fresh offenses never to be forgotten.
    What is "perpetual offence"? Can you give an example of it? And what are "fresh offences"? Are you sure you're addressing the OP?
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    @sonship said
    I think being captive or kind of enslaved to something in the mind can cause some people to live in the past their whole life.
    Certain events they continually look back to and remember how they felt.
    "...some people to live in the past their whole life. Certain events they continually look back to and remember how they felt.

    Is this not a mental mode that Christians can slip into? Does this apply to all religions?
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    16 Oct '18 03:32
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    @ThinkOfOne

    Another wise word from L, Brown, who I never heard of before.

    “Bitterness is a result of clinging to negative experiences. It serves you no good, and closes the door to your future.”
    ― Leon Brown


    From https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/3213972.Leon_Brown
    If you have a point, plainly state it.
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    16 Oct '18 03:39
    “It all begins and ends in your mind. What you give power to has power over you.”
    ― Leon Brown

    “Let people do what they need to do to make them happy.
    Mind your own business, and do what you need to do to make you happy.”
    ― Leon Brown
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    16 Oct '18 03:44
    @thinkofone said
    If you have a point, plainly state it.
    In so far as he has aimed it at me, he seems to want to depict my interest in Christians and their doctrine as being somehow illegitimate because of 'anger about the past'. He's been trying for years ~ particularly the last 2+ years. Arguments and observations and questions in debates and discussions have so often been met with point-avoiding remarks about "anger" and "bitterness". He seemingly always has to poison the well and in the course of doing that he has to completely ignore the positive and not-regretful things I have so often said about my years as a Christian. The important thing for him is that my dissent is tainted. He seeks to taint it.
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    @fmf said
    In so far as he has aimed it at me, he seems to want to depict my interest in Christians and their doctrine as being somehow illegitimate because of 'anger about the past'. He's been trying for years ~ particularly the last 2+ years. Arguments and observations and questions in debates and discussions have so often been met with point-avoiding remarks about "anger" and "bitterness ...[text shortened]... ars as a Christian. The important thing for him is that my dissent is tainted. He seeks to taint it.
    It's quite possible that that was what jaywill had in mind. However his post does begin with "@ThinkOfOne".
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    @thinkofone said
    It's quite possible that that was what jaywill had in mind. However his post does begin with "@ThinkOfOne".
    He directed the same quote at me, as you will see. That's why I said: "In so far as the same quote is aimed at me...". You're right, he may have the same bank-of-white phosphorous ad hominem in mind for you. >>> 'No need to engage idea and/or argument: file under "bitterness": debate and discussion not needed'.
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    @ThinkOfOne

    If you have a point, plainly state it.


    If you have a point there's no need to always put it in the form of a question.
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    @FMF

    Is this not a mental mode that Christians can slip into? Does this apply to all religions?


    If you have a point there's no need to always put it in the form of a question.
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    @FMF

    What is "perpetual offence"? Can you give an example of it? And what are "fresh offences"? Are you sure you're addressing the OP?


    it is an example of the trouble one can get into when everything begins and ends in the mind.
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    @FMF

    Do you think Muslims for example are "enslaved to something in the mind" and that Christians are not?


    If you have a point you do not always have to package it in the form of an inquisitive sounding question.
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    @FMF

    Your thoughts on this?


    You asked and I gave some - "thoughts on this."
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