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"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Is fhis statement political?
Is fhis statement political?
Originally posted by @fmfI don't think it's political.
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Is fhis statement political?
Originally posted by @philokaliaWhy did Jesus suggest something to the man that you describe the man perceiving to be "extreme"? Do you think it was "extreme"?
One of the more common interpretations is that it was a specific address to a man who said he had otherwise followed all the other commandments and was looking for what to do next. The rich man then goes away because he was unwilling to go to this extreme.
Originally posted by @chaney3So this Bible verse is about "hookers" etc.?
I don't think it's political.
Rich men have more options for debauchery because of money. Hookers, drugs, greed, gambling, etc.
Plus, they may be of the opinion that they don't 'need' God in their life.
Originally posted by @fmfThis is one of your dumbest replies.
So this Bible verse is about "hookers" etc.?
Originally posted by @chaney3I did get your point. That's why I typed "etc."
This is one of your dumbest replies.
I said debauchery, and listed some examples.
Not sure why you chose to ignore my point, which is a valid one, and instead act like an idiot.
Originally posted by @philokaliaSo one can believe in Christ, believe in the resurrection etc., and follow all the commandments of Jesus, but still not get to "heaven" because of "love of riches", is that your stance?
Of course, riches can be a pitfall, but what is the real pitfall about riches is the love of riches.
Originally posted by @fmfThat doesn't sound right at all.
So one can believe in Christ, believe in the resurrection etc., and follow all the commandments of Jesus, but still not get to "heaven" because of "love of riches", is that your stance?
Originally posted by @fmfBecause Christ is God, and knew the man's heart, and knew what his largest vice was and knew what he was capable of, he made that exact suggestion, and perhaps that young fellah reformed his life in a great number of ways afterwards and there were good results.
Why did Jesus suggest something to the man that you describe the man perceiving to be "extreme"? Do you think it was "extreme"?
Originally posted by @fmfNo !! This is the crux!!
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Is fhis statement political?
Originally posted by @philokaliaBut the possibility of not getting to heaven is what the verse is about, no? Your interpretation of it is that, if one is "just a bit too attached to one's wealth in some ways", then they will still get to heaven, is that right? Is that what the verse means to you?
So why would it be that a wealthy person who may have bee a bit too greedy here & there, but otherwise loves God and does the right things, would be sent to hell because he was just a bit too attached to his wealth in some ways?
Originally posted by @fmfNo, its about putting this world before the Kingdom of God.
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Is fhis statement political?
Originally posted by @fmfAre you suggesting that God does not forgive sinners?
But the possibility of not getting to heaven is what the verse is about, no? Your interpretation of it is that, if one is "just a bit too attached to one's wealth in some ways", then they will still get to heaven, is that right? Is that what the verse means to you?