Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Evidently josephw has given up on whatever point he was trying to make via John 10:33. Seems like we can all assume that he realized that he didn't have one and instead of being a man and admitting it, he's chosen to go off the thread topic and in a completely different direction.
Business as usual on RHP.
No. You fail, as does Rajk999.
The Jews did NOT "erroneously believe that Jesus was claiming to be God Himself." They believed in what Jesus Himself said. And since they were not of his flock (as earlier in John 10), they sought to lay siege to him, to catch him saying something against their laws.
"I and my Father are one." -- John 10:30
Some would lessen the power of "I and my Father are one" by saying it only refers to a unity of purpose and will. But how could a statement like that be considered blasphemy by the Jews who heard Jesus say these words? The Jews of Jesus' day see clearly
what the Jehovah's Witnesses and others seem to miss: that Jesus clearly
claimed to be God ("... because that Thou, being a man, makest thyself God." ).
They wanted to stone Him for blasphemy
, as they saw it. They did not take into consideration His works.
"Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him." -- John 10:36-38, KJV
They did not do this, because they were not of His flock