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Originally posted by robbie carrobieConrau has hit the nail on the head in the previous post.
they have a tendency of of trying to assign to us values that are non existent, for example, earlier today it was construed that we thought higher education was evil, of course when you called Conrau out, he had a ready made excuse, Noobster seems to be trying to say something about running the world, i am still unclear, but he has deserted me and ha ...[text shortened]... at all, it really is a wonder what this is all about. what do they think we are trying to say?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieearlier today it was construed that we thought higher education was evil, of course when you called Conrau out, he had a ready made excuse,
they have a tendency of of trying to assign to us values that are non existent, for example, earlier today it was construed that we thought higher education was evil, of course when you called Conrau out, he had a ready made excuse, Noobster seems to be trying to say something about running the world, i am still unclear, but he has deserted me and ha ...[text shortened]... at all, it really is a wonder what this is all about. what do they think we are trying to say?
No. It was Galvo who misconstrued me. I never accused you or Galvo of calling medical research evil. If you go to the original post and apply the normative syntactic rules of English, you would see that this is the case. I described your organisation as evil.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhatever they can come up with to belittle us. Been going on since Cain? It's never ended for ones who stand up for truth just as Jesus said. We would be hated by the world.
they have a tendency of of trying to assign to us values that are non existent, for example, earlier today it was construed that we thought higher education was evil, of course when you called Conrau out, he had a ready made excuse, Noobster seems to be trying to say something about running the world, i am still unclear, but he has deserted me and ha ...[text shortened]... at all, it really is a wonder what this is all about. what do they think we are trying to say?
Originally posted by Conrau KAre we not part of the JW organization?
[b] earlier today it was construed that we thought higher education was evil, of course when you called Conrau out, he had a ready made excuse,
No. It was Galvo who misconstrued me. I never accused you or Galvo of calling medical research evil. If you go to the original post and apply the normative syntactic rules of English, you would see that this is the case. I described your organisation as evil.[/b]
Originally posted by robbie carrobieCorrect me if i'm wrong but Jesus wasn't born in Greece was he?
actually there were many schools of higher education, both in the Greek and Roman world, indeed our whole education system is based on the Greek model.
The schooling in the Roman world wasn't established until after Jesus was long dead.
Originally posted by Proper Knobwhat that we discourage higher education, yet are willing to profit by it? what about those witnesses who are doctors and architects, enginners and scientists? do you see what a thoroughly stupid point it is that he makes?
Conrau has hit the nail on the head in the previous post.
Originally posted by robbie carrobienot true, I understood completely, I am trying to help you both to see how ludicrous that position is, though it may be a hopeless task. Sometimes ignorant wants to remain ignorant against its own best interests
they have a tendency of of trying to assign to us values that are non existent, for example, earlier today it was construed that we thought higher education was evil, of course when you called Conrau out, he had a ready made excuse, Noobster seems to be trying to say something about running the world, i am still unclear, but he has deserted me and ha ...[text shortened]... at all, it really is a wonder what this is all about. what do they think we are trying to say?
Originally posted by galveston75That persecution complex makes you JWs look like pussies. Stand up and be a man and speak your doctrine with pride.
Whatever they can come up with to belittle us. Been going on since Cain? It's never ended for ones who stand up for truth just as Jesus said. We would be hated by the world.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNot really. From what we know of Roman and Greek education (but this comes from academics so you should probably stop reading), their education consisted mostly of grammar, rhetoric and logic. The Trivium. Medical science and, in fact, any of the natural sciences were generally neglected. It would be a mistake as well to call any of this 'higher education'. There was no primary or secondary education to begin with and a Greek or Roman would attend an academy as an pubescent teenager.
actually there were many schools of higher education, both in the Greek and Roman world, indeed our whole education system is based on the Greek model.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAccording to Galvo, these are converts. The point however is, if JWs eventually convert a significant majority and consequently higher education declines, there would no longer be a stable supply of any of these professionals. There may be a few JWs who either as converts or anomalies practice medicine. But they would not be a significant majority any longer. Society would not be able to function in its present form.
what that we discourage higher education, yet are willing to profit by it? what about those witnesses who are doctors and architects, enginners and scientists? do you see what a thoroughly stupid point it is that he makes?
Originally posted by Proper KnobInt he case of Jesus they had their own centres of learning, rabbinic schools. Other Jews, as was outlined by my comments with regard to Paul, had a higher education. If you have read any of the classical philosophers you will know that the practice was that a learned or prominent individual would found a school of thought.
Correct me if i'm wrong but Jesus wasn't born in Greece was he?
The schooling in the Roman world wasn't established until after Jesus was long dead.
Originally posted by Conrau Krubbish, absolute and utter conjectural bilge water! Galvo said nothing of the sort, once again you fail to understand his intent, for example, let us take the case of war and the huge resources that are pummelled into weapons. It is estimated that one in four scientists are presently working on weapons programs, thus, if everyone was a witness you can dispense with 25 percent of those already, are you getting the picture? apply this to any area, judiciary, nursing and health care and the theory is sound.
According to Galvo, these are converts. The point however is, if JWs eventually convert a significant majority and consequently higher education declines, there would no longer be a stable supply of any of these professionals. There may be a few JWs who either as converts or anomalies practice medicine. But they would not be a significant majority any longer. Society would not be able to function in its present form.
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Originally posted by Conrau KHigher education would still be around and alive and well... Why do you not think we have questions about our planet and our universe like anyone else? How things work, what the future will be and how to make it better? You guys forget we're humans too. We all want answers and to make things better.
According to Galvo, these are converts. The point however is, if JWs eventually convert a significant majority and consequently higher education declines, there would no longer be a stable supply of any of these professionals. There may be a few JWs who either as converts or anomalies practice medicine. But they would not be a significant majority any longer. Society would not be able to function in its present form.
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Originally posted by Conrau Ki am well aware of what their education consisted of, nor is it a mistake to term it higher education, i do not accept your remarks, they are once again, naught but mere opinion and founded upon what! who can say?
Not really. From what we know of Roman and Greek education (but this comes from academics so you should probably stop reading), their education consisted mostly of grammar, rhetoric and logic. The Trivium. Medical science and, in fact, any of the natural sciences were generally neglected. It would be a mistake as well to call any of this 'higher educ education to begin with and a Greek or Roman would attend an academy as an pubescent teenager.