Last days?

@KellyJay said
You can only accuse; what you cannot do is prove anything by showing me where I am wrong about anything.

I think it is fairly obvious that you are wrong about almost everything.

@KellyJay said
They allowed millions to come in and kept telling everyone the border was secure, they lied through their teeth and you are still defending them, how brainwashed have you become?

Don't you, as a supposed Christian, think that the richest country on earth, should have room for asylum-seekers? The world is a dangerous place, and some people literally have no place to go. Would you be the Good Samaritan, or would you be Ebenezer Scrooge and send them home with no way to support their families? You talk a good game, with your anti-abortion stance (looking past, for now, the fact that you don't mind relegating women to second-class citizen status), but you would evict these people to go back to their country where they will still suffer under those regimes. As a Christian, you have absolutely no leg to stand on here. They ask for sanctuary, but you just say "No" and tell them to "hit the road". How "Christian".

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Apparently he works in a fish and chip shop in Bradford.

Show me the sideburns! 🙂

@Suzianne said
Don't you, as a supposed Christian, think that the richest country on earth, should have room for asylum-seekers? The world is a dangerous place, and some people literally have no place to go. Would you be the Good Samaritan, or would you be Ebenezer Scrooge and send them home with no way to support their families? You talk a good game, with your anti-abortion stance (loo ...[text shortened]... e. They ask for sanctuary, but you just say "No" and tell them to "hit the road". How "Christian".

What I think is that the laws of the land need to be respected, and we do not hold the doors open for groups that come in making money off the sex trade, drugs, and gang influence and have that become acceptable. You helped hold the door open to all of this, so the rapes and murders that you turned a blind eye to, you played a part in those things happening to others; your voice did that. The riches of any country don’t matter if we allow unrighteousness to sway just so we can feel good about ourselves, ignoring the suffering we are allowing.

@KellyJay said
What I think is that the laws of the land need to be respected, and we do not hold the doors open for groups that come in making money off the sex trade, drugs, and gang influence and have that become acceptable. You helped hold the door open to all of this, so the rapes and murders that you turned a blind eye to, you played a part in those things happening to others; [b]yo ...[text shortened]... hteousness to sway just so we can feel good about ourselves, ignoring the suffering we are allowing.

"You helped hold the door open to all of this, so the rapes and murders that you turned a blind eye to, you played a part in those things happening to others; your voice did that."

This is the opinion of the more conservative members of our government, an opinion I do not subscribe to, and you cannot prove it to me.

These people lie to obtain their office, and you take them at their word, hook, line and sinker. To you, their word is more powerful that the words of your Savior. This is the sin you have subscribed to.

"...if we allow unrighteousness to sway just so we can feel good about ourselves, ignoring the suffering we are allowing."

And yet, this is exactly what you are doing.

@Suzianne said
"You helped hold the door open to all of this, so the rapes and murders that you turned a blind eye to, you played a part in those things happening to others; your voice did that."

This is the opinion of the more conservative members of our government, an opinion I do not subscribe to, and you cannot prove it to me.

These people lie to obtain their office, and you take ...[text shortened]... ourselves, ignoring the suffering we are allowing."

And yet, this is exactly what you are doing.

Rapes, murders, slavery, and all manner of lawlessness you promote in the name of compassion at the expense of righteousness!

@KellyJay said
Rapes, murders, slavery, and all manner of lawlessness you promote in the name of compassion at the expense of righteousness!

'Rapes, murders, slavery, and all manner of lawlessness' are sometimes condoned by your God in the OT, while still claiming to be righteous.

True story.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
'Rapes, murders, slavery, and all manner of lawlessness' are sometimes condoned by your God in the OT, while still claiming to be righteous.

True story.

You have to be specific, you I imagine will drop the topic early in like you do when you make scienctfic statements you cannot or will not backup.

@KellyJay said
You have to be specific, you I imagine will drop the topic early in like you do when you make scienctfic statements you cannot or will not backup.

Oh sorry, I thought you knew the Bible.

My bad.

@KellyJay said
You have to be specific, you I imagine will drop the topic early in like you do when you make scienctfic statements you cannot or will not backup.

Here you go:

Numbers 31:7-18 NLT:

'They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.'

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Here you go:

Numbers 31:7-18 NLT:

'They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flock ...[text shortened]... slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.'

What do you think should have happened here to preserve your sense of righteousness that you would have done differently than God commanded?

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Oh sorry, I thought you knew the Bible.

My bad.

Yawn

@KellyJay said
What do you think should have happened here to preserve your sense of righteousness that you would have done differently than God commanded?

Take a second to engage your brain. Read this part carefully:

"But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded".


The idea that God's righteousness is preserved by allowing rape and murder just demonstrates how messed up your religion truly is.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
'Rapes, murders, slavery, and all manner of lawlessness' are sometimes condoned by your God in the OT, while still claiming to be righteous.

True story.

God demands an impossible level of righteousness of his subjects. But does Yahweh of the OT ever claim to be righteous Himself? The Book Of Job is pretty clear on this: when Job cries out in desperation for God to declare Himself, whether he, Job, is pious, and if he is (pious), why God is tormenting him, God answers, in effect, 'Shut up, you little twerp. I made world, I make the sun to shine and the rain to fall, who are you to complain!' Nary a whisper about God's righteousness there.

@moonbus said
God demands an impossible level of righteousness of his subjects. But does Yahweh of the OT ever claim to be righteous Himself? The Book Of Job is pretty clear on this: when Job cries out in desperation for God to declare Himself, whether he, Job, is pious, and if he is (pious), why God is tormenting him, God answers, in effect, 'Shut up, you little twerp. I made world, I mak ...[text shortened]... hine and the rain to fall, who are you to complain!' Nary a whisper about God's righteousness there.

Not impossible, righteous! We are not righteous, but we should be; we are twisted with sin. The thing about Job is that he experienced some things that we all go through, but he went through them all in rapid succession, with Satan right there accusing him of failure before it all even started.

Satan accused Job of living a good life before God because he was comfortable. God gave us life, and there is more to it than being happy and content with the good we have in the world. Satan is all about consuming, lying, and wanting what we want, while God is about life.

With God, even amid tragedies or successes, those play no real part in the important things in life. They are just experiences we all go through; God levels out the mountains and valleys in our lives so that the peace He gives is not dependent on our circumstances. You can see many who have gone through tragedies come out stronger people, while the comfortable become the most demanding and self-centered.