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    KellyJay (later decided it was all literal, all of it)
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    21 Oct '18 08:17
    I propose to the forum that this thread, the lack of engagement from eternal suffering believers and their inability to unequivocally state what is literal and what isn’t** in Revelation 19, is of itself evidence that the the mentions of hell and eternal suffering are, like the other stuff, metaphorical mechanisms.

    **except KellyJay who initially said the stuff in the OP was neither metaphorical nor literal but having realised that was an indefensible position decided to call it all as being “literal”. Whether of not you choose to believe that he really believes this is a matter for the reader, but in doing so he protects his precious eternal suffering doctrine. In his own “heart” [sic] at least.
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    Everything the Word of God says will literally come to pass.
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    21 Oct '18 11:04
    @secondson said
    Everything the Word of God says will literally come to pass.
    The challenge is to state what in the OP from Revelation 19 is literal and what is metaphorical.
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    21 Oct '18 11:07
    @secondson said
    Everything the Word of God says will literally come to pass.
    Matthew 16:28

    'Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.'
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    @divegeester said
    Decliners so far:

    KellyJay (later decided it was all literal, all of it)
    Chaney3
    SecondSon
    dj2becker
    ThinkofOne (not a Christian but a claimed follower of some of the words of Jesus but only while he was on earth)
    Sonship
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    21 Oct '18 11:13
    @divegeester said
    I propose to the forum that this thread, the lack of engagement from eternal suffering believers and their inability to unequivocally state what is literal and what isn’t** in Revelation 19, is of itself evidence that the the mentions of hell and eternal suffering are, like the other stuff, metaphorical mechanisms.

    **except KellyJay who initially said the stuff in the ...[text shortened]... in doing so he protects his precious eternal suffering doctrine. In his own “heart” [sic] at least.
    Read what I wrote again you are twisting what I said.
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    21 Oct '18 11:14
    @kellyjay said
    I see you edited out your claim that I did not read what you wrote. I most certainly did, here it is..

    Posted by KellyJay on page one
    “Its all literal, not metaphorical in my opinion.”
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    @kellyjay said
    Read what I wrote again you are twisting what I said.
    See my reply above.
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    @divegeester said
    See my reply above.
    My first reply, that was just to clear it up for you, as you didn't grasp what I had said.
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    21 Oct '18 11:19
    @kellyjay said
    My first reply, that was just to clear it up for you, as you didn't grasp what I had said.
    Here’s what you said:

    ”Its all literal, not metaphorical in my opinion.”


    You said it on page one.
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    @divegeester said
    Here’s what you said:

    ”Its all literal, not metaphorical in my opinion.”


    You said it on page one.
    Was that my first reply to you?
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    @kellyjay said
    Was that my first reply to you?
    Some wafflely avoidence saying you didnt see how any of it needed to be metaphors.
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    @kellyjay said
    Was that my first reply to you?
    Are you back peddling and now going to say that some of it is metaphors, or are you sticking with your unequivocal “it’s all literal” stance?
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