Literal vs Metaphor challenge

@divegeester said
You haven’t, and saying you have is dishonest chaney3.

What you have done is “replied”, that is not the same thing as answering the challenge. Credit to KellyJay he has answered, albeit his response is a level of crazy I’ve not come across before, but at least he ballsed up and made a call.

Dive, the real issue here is you, not your challenge.

You've said that you will toss out the entire New Testament before you'd ever believe that hell exists.

@chaney3 said
Dive, the real issue here is you, not your challenge.

You've said that you will toss out the entire New Testament before you'd ever believe that hell exists.

This thread is about my OP and the challenge therein. Feel free to respond to that if you can.

@divegeester said
Reposting for all you brave hell-fire Christians, as per KellyJay’s request:


Here’s a passage for all you hellfire and burning believers to have a look and and tell me this; which bits are literal and which are metaphors and symbolisms?

From Revelation 19

I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and Tru ...[text shortened]... nd the burning ... am I right?

What a desperately sad doctrine of death it is that you cling to.

You've already decided it's all bullshiit, so what makes you think you're right?

The answer: because you don't want it to be true, so you'll interpret it any way possible to avoid hell being a reality.

Your OP is a telling example of you interpreting the bible to fit things into your own idea of how things should be.

@chaney3 said
I already answered.

If someone likes what a specific verse or verses say, it's literal.

If someone dislikes the message, then they either dismiss it, or convince themselves it's a metaphor.

In your case Dive, you do not want to believe in hell, so you will continue to argue against any scripture that deals with hell.

"Go and sin NO more".
Real or metaphor?

Meta-answer to the metaphor challenge. Gotta like that.

You tell them what's what C3.

@thinkofone said
Meta-answer to the metaphor challenge. Gotta like that.

You tell them what's what C3.

When Jesus said he was sent by god was he being literal?

@divegeester said
When Jesus said he was sent by god was he being literal?

You should call C3 "The Bus Driver".

'Cause he's taking you to school today.

@divegeester said
I can’t believe you made me go find the post and you’ve copped out again. Disappointing but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

So it’s all neither literal nor metaphorical?

Is that it?

he's 'not sure' by self admission.

And we should listen to him?

@chaney3 said
Yes.
When there is something in the bible that you agree with, it's literal

When there is something in the bible that you disagree with, it's a metaphor.

It's clear Dive that you don't want to believe in hell, despite the fact many warnings are given about it, even from Jesus.

are you serious right now?

Just admit you dont know either

@chaney3 said
I'm a Christian.
Maybe not a good one, because of doubt, but I am a Christian.

even JC had doubts.

Doubt is part of the human condition, it is part of the mystery.
Before enlightenment chopping wood carrying water, after enlightenment chopping wood carrying water.

It is implied here that the human condition persists despite the knowledge of the divine

@chaney3 said
You've already decided it's all bullshiit, so what makes you think you're right?

The answer: because you don't want it to be true, so you'll interpret it any way possible to avoid hell being a reality.

Your OP is a telling example of you interpreting the bible to fit things into your own idea of how things should be.

This thread is about my OP and the challenge therein. Feel free to respond to that if you can.

@karoly-aczel said
he's 'not sure' by self admission.

And we should listen to him?

You being sure makes you someone to listen to because you’re an authority?

@thinkofone said
You should call C3 "The Bus Driver".

'Cause he's taking you to school today.

Another “follower of Jesus” who can’t answer a straightforward question.

@divegeester said
When Jesus said he was sent by god was he being literal?

By God not god

@kellyjay said
You being sure makes you someone to listen to because you’re an authority?

Does the Jesus in the OP with the (according to you) literal sword coming out of his mouth, keep the sword in his throat?

@divegeester said
This thread is about my OP and the challenge therein. Feel free to respond to that if you can.

Your OP is not interesting.

What's interesting is that you've decided hell doesn't exist, despite the bible saying it does.

Why you feel that way is what's interesting. You have decided that you'll accept the parts of the bible that suit your own beliefs, and will discard the rest.