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Originally posted by SuzianneI dont see the two as being mutually exclusive.
It is far less a "prize" than a 'promise'.
And God does not renege on His promises.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." -- John 3:16-17 ...[text shortened]... He loves us, "that the world through him might be saved."
It's a promise, not a prize.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf you are not ashamed of the Bible, then one might think you would attribute it properly.
Paul himself states, who will get ready for battle if the trumpet sounds an indistinct sound. How will they put faith in him who they have not heard, How will they hear unless someone has been sent forth? look how comely are the feet of those declaring good things of good things. One of my favourite scriptures, which Jesus himself directly quotes f ...[text shortened]... ope with all manner of ills. I am never ashamed of the Good News which God has entrusted to me.
What you included was Isaiah 61:1-2 (from your translation, btw), and you left out what is maybe the meat of that quote, Isaiah 61:3 itself.
"To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified." -- Isaiah 61:3, KJV
Originally posted by Suziannethats not the meat that just the leftovers.
If you are not ashamed of the Bible, then one might think you would attribute it properly.
What you included was Isaiah 61:1-2 (from your translation, btw), and you left out what is maybe the meat of that quote, Isaiah 61:3 itself.
"To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of ...[text shortened]... ees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified." -- Isaiah 61:3, KJV
Originally posted by stellspalfieIf someone borrowed money from you, and promised to pay you back next Thursday, and Thursday came and here he was, to pay you back as he promised, would you then consider the money to be a "prize" that you had somehow "won"?
I dont see the two as being mutually exclusive.
Originally posted by Suzianneyes the real meat was in the quotation that I cited.
Just the leftovers? Seriously? And yet you say you are not ashamed of the Bible? None of it is "leftovers"!
Isaiah 61:3 is the entire point of Isaiah 61:1-3. "... that he might be glorified." Not us.
Originally posted by SuzianneSo you would say not an exact image ?
An "image", or perhaps "blueprint", if you will, of how to make physical man from an ethereal deity. Certainly 'mind' and 'emotions' is part of that. And certainly not man giving these to God, as sonhouse claims.
Originally posted by stellspalfieI don't know, man, that would be entirely on you, then.
I'm pretty sure he wouldnt like to hear from me, it wouldnt exactly be a pleasant exchange.
He just wants you to give him a chance. And he means a real chance, not the remote chance of a defense lawyer making a closing statement to a jury full of people who have already made up their mind on insufficient evidence.
Originally posted by OdBodWe're talking about God, here. How could the image not be exact? Another word for image might be "reflection", since the material he has to work with is not as pure as his own. It's hard to get the properties of an ethereal being into a physical one, but hey, he's God; if anyone can do it, he can.
So you would say not an exact image ?