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    For religionists who believe that all flora and fauna were created deliberately and with intelligence, what is the purpose of something like magic mushrooms and are there any theological reasons for the eating of them to be forbidden?
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    30 Apr '13 02:59
    Originally posted by FMF
    For religionists who believe that all flora and fauna were created deliberately and with intelligence, what is the purpose of something like magic mushrooms and are there any theological reasons for the eating of them to be forbidden?
    I have never read anything in the Holy Bible that forbids eating of mushrooms in particular. Perhaps someone on the Science Forum can answer your question on their purpose.
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    30 Apr '13 08:18
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I have never read anything in the Holy Bible that forbids eating of mushrooms in particular. Perhaps someone on the Science Forum can answer your question on their purpose.
    does this mean the bible condones the use of all drugs derived from plants?
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    30 Apr '13 09:081 edit
    for the atheist. go out in the woods and eat some, spend the whole day and night on shrooms.(in like a atheist out like a theist) it's true do it you'll see
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    30 Apr '13 09:18
    Originally posted by tim88
    for the atheist. go out in the woods and eat some, spend the whole day and night on shrooms.(in like a atheist out like a theist) it's true do it you'll see
    are you on shrooms now timmy?
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    30 Apr '13 09:391 edit
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    are you on shrooms now timmy?
    There's not mushroom for religion in my life. 🙂
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    No. That's FMF job now

    But i recommend he do San pedro cactus it will give him the ability to talk to nature and nature will tell him if there is or is not a god. I recommend he read about some trips first. Here is an experience to get him started on his journey 🙂


    He can easily communicate with the big tree. We said hi. It felt real.

    I was noticing the tree. The biggest tree in the back
    yard. It was radiating happiness. We said hi. It seemed so real. I knew that
    the mescaline was opening the doors of perception and what its effects
    were.... but this seemed real. I knew it to be the effects of the entheogen.
    The tree said it was starting to wind down for the winter. It was really
    happy that I watered it a lot last summer, but stated it was a bit thirsty.
    One more good watering is all it needs this year.

    The communication took on a different dimension. I blended with the tree. We
    became "one flesh." I started learning from the genetic memories in the
    tree. I saw how humans have the same DNA memories as the trees until we
    branched. We are all one... the trees and the humans. The humans just
    developed differently for different reasons. The trees are our cousins. They
    can teach us a lot. Their technology is different. They were kind enough to
    evolve to give us air. They have strived to help support all other life, but
    it turns away and destroys everything.

    Evolution is like a software program that is running and constantly
    modifying itself to create a perfect environment for the planet and
    ultimately the universe. It started off with 1-celled organisms but,
    the spirits are eternal, so long before the spirits got together and decided
    what they would do, their function... the spirit of the trees decided to
    become physical trees... the cells started dividing and splitting, each
    spirit took it over and guided its evolution...
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    30 Apr '13 10:18
    Originally posted by tim88
    No. That's FMF job now

    But i recommend he do San pedro cactus it will give him the ability to talk to nature and nature will tell him if there is or is not a god. I recommend he read about some trips first. Here is an experience to get him started on his journey 🙂


    He can easily communicate with the big tree. We said hi. It felt real.

    I was noticing ...[text shortened]... e cells started dividing and splitting, each
    spirit took it over and guided its evolution...
    You should take up creative writing.
    I have a feeling that you would be good at it.

    I can see the movie now,

    "Revenge of the Sycamores"

    Directed by

    tim88
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    The experience is off the net lol, look at some trips but only read the ones that were taken in nature or in the woods ex
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    30 Apr '13 10:33
    Originally posted by tim88
    No. That's FMF job now

    But i recommend he do San pedro cactus it will give him the ability to talk to nature and nature will tell him if there is or is not a god. I recommend he read about some trips first. Here is an experience to get him started on his journey 🙂


    He can easily communicate with the big tree. We said hi. It felt real.

    I was noticing ...[text shortened]... e cells started dividing and splitting, each
    spirit took it over and guided its evolution...
    can you have a word with my lazy, good for nothing apple tree, get it to pull its finger out.
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    you're so far away it would be easier for you to take some and ask it whats wrong yourself 🙂
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    30 Apr '13 12:19
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    does this mean the bible condones the use of all drugs derived from plants?
    I would say the answer to your question is no, not all. There are references in the Bible to the black arts and sorcery (pharmakeia). Typically drugs (pharmakeia) were/are used to induce hallucinations, trances and visions. People who do such things are in some pretty interesting company, see Revelation 21:8. So I would say not all is codoned.

    Haiti is a perfect example of where this is still practiced today, voodoo is rampant.

    Conversely, the Bible speaks of oils, balms, etc. that have healing properties and used for medicinal purposes.

    See 'Pharmakeia and the Bible' on Wikipedia, although I don't always lend too much credibility to Wiki, this does a fair job in the way of explaining the term.
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    30 Apr '13 12:27
    Originally posted by FMF
    For religionists who believe that all flora and fauna were created deliberately and with intelligence, what is the purpose of something like magic mushrooms and are there any theological reasons for the eating of them to be forbidden?
    they make you grow and be able to smash bricks
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    30 Apr '13 12:42
    Originally posted by kd2acz
    I would say the answer to your question is no, not all. There are references in the Bible to the black arts and sorcery (pharmakeia). Typically drugs (pharmakeia) were/are used to induce hallucinations, trances and visions. People who do such things are in some pretty interesting company, see Revelation 21:8. So I would say not all is codoned.

    Haiti is ...[text shortened]... ys lend too much credibility to Wiki, this does a fair job in the way of explaining the term.
    What is the purpose of something like magic mushrooms?
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    30 Apr '13 12:441 edit
    are you calling FMF a richard zahlanzi
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