Mark of the Beast: Legitimate Concern?

Originally posted by twhitehead
Apple watch?

Is that like Bay Watch in an orchard?
I can just see Pamela Anderson with an armful of fruit.

Originally posted by vivify
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31042477

In this story from the BBC, a Swedish corporation called Epicenter implants a chip into it's employees. This chip allows the same type of access that a pass card gives into some government offices.

What's interesting, is that there's a video of a BBC reported getting this chip implanted into his left hand ( ...[text shortened]... ate concern? Are Christians on to something here with the Mark of the Beast idea? If not, why?

Implanting a device that takes the place of cash and a credit card is the wave of the future. They are even chipping credit cards now, so it is the natural progression.

Additionally, you can implant a GPS in the chip so that there will be no more missing persons and no running from the law. Also put a health history in the chip and all of a sudden medical people will instantly know how to take care of you.

Think of it, no more cheating on taxes. No more filing taxes. No more losing money or a credit card. No more spending money and resources spent to create cash and credit cards. The system would be brutally efficient and save trillions.

Is it a coincidence that it is the right hand or forehead. Die hard atheists will say yes. Those that oppose the chipping will be treated like those who oppose legislation for global warming. They will be discredited as religious goof balls who are hindering progress. In fact, if this device is seen needed to counter terrorism, then people will probably treat them as terrorists as well.

So the question begs, will you take the chip?

Originally posted by Rajk999
I think you are missing the point. The Mark of the Beast is an indication that the person is agreeeing to worship the Beast, or the Image of the Beast.

The important thing in this is that those that are Christs will not worship the Beast which is demonstrated by receiving his Mark.

Worship of the Beast = receiving of the Mark.

Not receiving the Mar ...[text shortened]... ocus on the Mark of the Beast without identifying what the Bible says about receiving that mark.

Those that don't take the chip will be beheaded.

Now who beheads in the 21rst century?

Crazy stuff. 🙄

Originally posted by vivify
True. It only says "receive". However, the only way to receive a "mark" would be for that mark to be attached to your body somehow (like a tattoo).

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Why do you insist on that? I suspect you are saying that specifically to exclude cell phones and no other reason.
It is perfectly reasonable to consider a cellphone to be a 'mark'. It is a uniquely identifying item that you keep on you at all times and is either in your right hand or by your ear (or in the case of Google Glass, on your forehead).

Many a dummy seems to be very nearly surgically attached to his "smart" phone; as in, you could shove the thing up his ass and he could hardly be any closer to it. So we could say that the devices are "virtually" implants.

Originally posted by vivify
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31042477

In this story from the BBC, a Swedish corporation called Epicenter implants a chip into it's employees. This chip allows the same type of access that a pass card gives into some government offices.

What's interesting, is that there's a video of a BBC reported getting this chip implanted into his left hand ( ...[text shortened]... ate concern? Are Christians on to something here with the Mark of the Beast idea? If not, why?

The Mark of the Beast was Caesar Nero's image on Roman coins of the time.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
The Mark of the Beast was Caesar Nero's image on Roman coins of the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0sZYEtSHIM

Ok, how many people of that time went around with coins embedded in their hands or foreheads?

Originally posted by Suzianne
Ok, how many people of that time went around with coins embedded in their hands or foreheads?

There's a picture of President Obama with the "Mark of the Beast" on his forehead and hand here: http://tinyurl.com/qgl83cr

"The plain truth is that anyone who agrees with, supports, makes an affinity with, or doesn't just flat out oppose Obama in his antichristic policies has taken his mark! There is no fence-sitting on this issue."

We should be thankful ~ perhaps ~ that this 2,000 year old mumbo jumbo isn't being seized upon by any cranks with ideologies to peddle.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Ok, how many people of that time went around with coins embedded in their hands or foreheads?

Your translation is faulty. The coins were marked with hands or foreheads. Like how our US quarters are marked with a forehead on one side and an eagle on the other.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Your translation is faulty. The coins were marked with hands or foreheads. Like how our US quarters are marked with a forehead on one side and an eagle on the other.

What does that have to do with anything?

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:" -- Revelation 13:16

Originally posted by RJHinds
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The mark of the beast is not Islam.

How does one get a religion in their right hand or forehead?

Look, I know you hate Islam, but please don't be stupid.

Originally posted by whodey
Implanting a device that takes the place of cash and a credit card is the wave of the future. They are even chipping credit cards now, so it is the natural progression.

Just so you know, that is not new. The US is just behind the rest of the world. My card has been chipped for a number of years, and I was late getting one. We don't yet use 'tap to pay' but it is common in europe.

Additionally, you can implant a GPS in the chip so that there will be no more missing persons and no running from the law. Also put a health history in the chip and all of a sudden medical people will instantly know how to take care of you.
Why put it in a chip when you are more than happy carrying it all in your Cell phone and Apple watch already?

Think of it, no more cheating on taxes. No more filing taxes.
How does that follow? Why must a credit card be under your skin before they can automate taxes? It makes no sense.

No more losing money or a credit card.
Not really that big a deal. I have not lost my bank card in 10 years.

No more spending money and resources spent to create cash and credit cards. The system would be brutally efficient and save trillions.
On the case maybe. Credit cards really don't cost much to make. In fact they cost less to make than implanting an RFID card.

Is it a coincidence that it is the right hand or forehead.
It is not the forehead in the article in the OP. It is in the right hand merely for convenience which is quite likely the same reason the Bible says right had. But then you might wear you Apple watch on your right hand too. Coincidence? I think not.

Those that oppose the chipping will be treated like those who oppose legislation for global warming.
So basically ridiculed on internet forums, but still allowed to run the government. Not to bad then.

So the question begs, will you take the chip?
You almost certainly already have taken something that does absolutely everything you describe except is isn't implanted under your skin.

In fact the smart phone does far more when it comes to privacy concerns than an RFID chip ever could. A smart phone can take pictures or even video of where you are and what you are doing. A smart phone can record who you communicate with and all your communications. A smart phone can keep track of what you say on social media.
Someone with full access to your smartphone could tell you intimate details about your life sometimes before you know yourself.

Seriously, fear an RFID chip on purely religious grounds if you wish, but if it is privacy concerns that are the issue here it is the cell phone you should fear. RFID chips have nothing on them.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Tagging people with RFID chips is a legitimate concern for everyone. The 'Mark of the Beast' most definitely is not.

However, the privacy issues surrounding tagging people with RFID chips are largely made redundant by the cell phone ie if you want to track someone it is far far easier to track their cell phone than to track them by RFID which has a ver ...[text shortened]... out it and name something else the 'Mark of the Beast'.

Lets not get started on Google Glass.

20 years ago bar-codes were the "Mark of the Beast" over here.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Look, I know you hate Islam, but please don't be stupid.

Asking Hinds not to be stupid is akin to asking a baby not to poo it's nappy. Both just gurgle, pull a smug face and squeeze another one off.