11 Sep 15
Originally posted by lemon limeRevelations wasn't written for you either. It was written for people who lived nearly two thousand years ago.
The mark of the Beast is written about in Rev 13, 14 and 15. Revelations wasn't written for unbelievers, so if you and dive don't believe it then guess what... it wasn't written for you.
But it's not just a matter of not believing it, because apparently some of the naysayers here can't seem to tell the differece between something attached to a hand or ...[text shortened]... s just playing around (acting dumb and clueless) or do you really not understand the difference?
Originally posted by FreakyKBHNope. Your translation is wrong. It's not "on the hand/forehead of them" but "of the hand/forehead of him"
Here is a transliteration of the Greek into English of Revelation 13:16:
"and it is making all the little and the great and the rich and the poor and the free and the slaves that it should be giving to them carve effect on the hand of them of the right or on the foreheads of them"
11 Sep 15
Originally posted by FreakyKBHYes, the "second beast" you speak of is the False Prophet.
Highly entertaining, to watch you so emphatically (dogmatically, in some cases) issue forth STATEMENT of FACTS from an area just below your intergluteal cleft which time after time can be shown to be generally and specifically completely false.
Your specious suggestion that smartphones are rejected as the Mark of the Beast by Christians on the basis of ...[text shortened]... mething similar occuring to the one with that permanent mark or engraving.
So there you go...
He is also the one who makes the image of the beast to be worshipped.
11 Sep 15
Originally posted by AThousandYoungSpecifying in this way only serves to obscure the actual meaning. The same word is used for many third-person pronouns. But you are not mentioning that you are mistaking the word for "in" as ""of".
Nope. Your translation is wrong. It's not "on the hand/forehead of them" but "of the hand/forehead of him"
11 Sep 15
Originally posted by SuzianneThe Second Beast of the Earth was the pagan Roman Imperial Cult (which exists in the popular Elder Scrolls series of video games as do many other historical references).
Yes, the "second beast" you speak of is the False Prophet.
He is also the one who makes the image of the beast to be worshipped.
http://www.granbychurchofchrist.org/Bible/KingJames/Revelation/StudyGuide/0043IdentificationOfTheSecondBeast.htm
When we study the history that is contemporary to Domitian, we find an organization who acted as the enforcer for Domitian's religious policies. This was the Commune' or better known as the Roman Concilia. The Concilia, also known as the "Imperial Cult" was a so called religious organization formed during the early Principate of Augustus, and was rapidly established throughout the Empire and its provinces. A principate was a form of rule in the early Roman Empire in which some republican forms were retained in the government.
The Augustan principate transformed the long-standing Republican system of government to a monarchy couched in the traditional Roman practices and forms. These monarchs were originally called princeps but later became known as emperors. They were expected to represent and balance the interests of the Roman military, the senate and the people. They were to maintain peace, security and prosperity throughout an ethnically diverse empire.
The imperial cult functioned by officially acknowledging an emperors' office and rule as divinely approved and constitutional. A deceased Emperor held worthy of the honour could be voted a state divinity (divus, plural divi) by the Senate thus elevating the emperor to the status of a God. This act is referred to as 'apotheosis'. The granting of apotheosis or godhood was intended to impart religious, political and moral judgment on Imperial rulers in the perception of the Roman citizenry. It was an act of treason to neglect the policies of the imperial cult.
Christians properly regarded the Imperial Cult of the Emperor as a particularly offensive instrument of "pagan" impiety and persecution.
11 Sep 15
Originally posted by AThousandYoungLooks like my skepticism was well-founded.
We have dug up the Mark and have it in our museums. Here are pictures of the Mark of the Beast:
http://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrTccrmPPNV9DwAbkIPxQt.?p=nero+on+coins
How is a coin engraved, carved or scuplted into a person's right hand or forehead, exactly?
11 Sep 15
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWe are more concerned about the future than the past. Who it could be applied to in the past is not that important today. 😏
The Second Beast of the Earth was the pagan Roman Imperial Cult (which exists in the popular Elder Scrolls series of video games as do many other historical references).
[b]http://www.granbychurchofchrist.org/Bible/KingJames/Revelation/StudyGuide/0043IdentificationOfTheSecondBeast.htm
When we study the history that is contemporary to Domitian, w ...[text shortened]... lt of the Emperor as a particularly offensive instrument of "pagan" impiety and persecution.[/b]
11 Sep 15
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAu contraire: all sixty six books of the Word of God, which authoritatively reveal absolute truth, were written for the entire human race including you.
Revelations wasn't written for you either. It was written for people who lived nearly two thousand years ago.