Originally posted by DeepThought Well yes, but then again the biblical account has God creating order out of chaos, so that kind of argument can be applied to your narrative as well.
Except God created things out of nothing but His own Word, and holds it
all together by the power of His Word.
Kelly
When we think about light we don’t really think about what it is made of. For the longest time physicists and scientist tried to determine if light was a wave or a particle.
Photons of light have a unique property in that they are both a particle and a wave. This is what allows photons unique properties like refraction and diffusion. However light particles are not quite the same as other elementary particles. They have interesting characteristics that are not commonly observed. First, as of right now physicists theorize that photons have no mass. They have some characteristics of particles like angular momentum but their frequency is independent of the influence of mass. They also don’t carry a charge.
Photons are basically the most visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. This was one of the major breakthroughs Einstein and the father of quantum physics, Planck made about the nature of light. This link is what is behind the photoelectric effect that makes solar power possible. Because light is another form of energy it can be transferred or converted into other types. In the case of the photoelectric effect the energy of light photons is transferred through the photons bumping into the atoms of a giving material. This causes the atom that is hit to lose electrons and thus make electricity.
So if photons of light is a form of energy and have no mass as stated in this article, does that mean it is not matter?
mat·ter
noun: matter; plural noun: matters; noun: the matter
1. physical substance in general, as distinct from mind and spirit; (in physics) that which occupies space and possesses rest mass, especially as distinct from energy.
Originally posted by FabianFnas As this is the Spiritual Forum and not the Science Forum, I have to ask you - what does the bible say?
Is the photon a wave or a particle?
As far as I know, it does not say. God seems to leave that up to us to discover on our own.
Originally posted by RJHinds As far as I know, it does not say. God seems to leave that up to us to discover on our own.
So you don't know then... Bible says nothing, therefore we cannot use the bible in science.
Or perhaps you do know:
If the wave/particle duality disproves creation, then it is wrong.
If the wave/particle duality proves creation, then it is right.
That's why it is called 'duality'.
Originally posted by FabianFnas So you don't know then... Bible says nothing, therefore we cannot use the bible in science.
Or perhaps you do know:
If the wave/particle duality disproves creation, then it is wrong.
If the wave/particle duality proves creation, then it is right.
That's why it is called 'duality'.
Well the Holy Bible says the earth was created before this light photon and we believe the earth is matter and has mass. So that would indicate that light is not needed to make matter, wouldn't it?
Originally posted by RJHinds Well the Holy Bible says the earth was created before this light photon and we believe the earth is matter and has mass. So that would indicate that light is not needed to make matter, wouldn't it?
Light is energy. Energy is needed to create matter. And this is the short explanation of BigBang that happened 13,7 billion of years ago.
Originally posted by FabianFnas Light is energy. Energy is needed to create matter. And this is the short explanation of BigBang that happened 13,7 billion of years ago.
The scientist do say that the light photon is a form of energy that can be converted into other types of energy. However, the Holy Bible confirms that both water and earth elements were created before light.
Originally posted by RJHinds The scientist do say that the light photon is a form of energy that can be converted into other types of energy. However, the Holy Bible confirms that both water and earth elements were created before light.
And still, the bible doesn't say wheater the photon is a wave or a particle. If not even god himself knows it, how can he be the one that created it? Science knows. The equations explain it all. Bible does not.
Originally posted by FabianFnas And still, the bible doesn't say wheater the photon is a wave or a particle. If not even god himself knows it, how can he be the one that created it? Science knows. The equations explain it all. Bible does not.
Science does not know either. They just picked particle and said it acts like a wave. It seems more like guessing to me.
Originally posted by RJHinds Science does not know either. They just picked particle and said it acts like a wave. It seems more like guessing to me.
Well, creationists do a great deal of guesswork, don't you?
Science know more about photons than creationists can comprehend. The equations explains it all. If you don't understand then it sure looks like guessing to you.
Originally posted by RJHinds As far as I know, it does not say. God seems to leave that up to us to discover on our own.
So you want to project to the world what YOU think light does so you can pat yourself on the back, thinking you have proved the Earth to be only 6000 years old because the heavens were stretched and that supposedly means light from 13 billion light years away now magically is only a few thousand light years out max?
If your god left it up to us to discover the properties of light, you don't like what we actually found because the Universe IS 14 billion years old and it has taken the furthest light that long to get here.
THAT is what you think your god let us discover, only to trick us, right?
04 Jun '14 03:44
matter created from light
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