Originally posted by eagles54I never said as much. I'm telling you why God told us to marry other Christians.
Why do you feel that only a Christian can practice compassion and a deeply spiritual way of life? That is the height of arrogance and it's quite a slap in the face to many, many good people who are not of your faith.
Originally posted by DarfiusDarfius: "Because if she married a non-Christian man, her love for him might cause her to do things to risk her salvation, and it would be particularly risky for the child, should they have one."
I never said as much. I'm telling you why God told us to marry other Christians.
You have said as much in the above statement. Where does God tell Christians to only marry other Christians?
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesJust a moment. This does not hold.
What I mean is that if I had a grandfather in heaven, he wouldn't be able to see me sin or know about me sinning on Earth, for that would sadden him. Is that correct?
Darfius claims that God and the Angels can see us sinning, but,
somehow, this doesn't sadden them. Why would it not sadden God
or the Angels but not humans who had come to the full revelation of
God's nature?
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioWell, I don't believe that this is God speaking, but for someone following sola scriptura, the Bible clearly states (for a change) in a particularly hideous passage, 2 Cor. 6:14
Where did 'God tell us to only marry other Christians?'
"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?"
That Paul was a wacko. You know, for a religion where one is supposedly free of rules to find salvation, there sure seem to be a lot of rules.
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Originally posted by NemesioWhen did I EVER say it didn't sadden God or the angels when we sinned? I will assume you made a mistake and aren't lying, Nemesio.
Just a moment. This does not hold.
Darfius claims that God and the Angels can see us sinning, but,
somehow, this doesn't sadden them. Why would it not sadden God
or the Angels but not humans who had come to the full revelation of
God's nature?
Nemesio
Originally posted by thesonofsaulThat's not a rule for salvation. It's a rule to help maintain it.
Well, I don't believe that this is God speaking, but for someone following sola scriptura, the Bible clearly states (for a change) in a particularly hideous passage, 2 Cor. 6:14
"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?"
That Paul was a ...[text shortened]... pposedly free of rules to find salvation, there sure seem to be a lot of rules.
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Originally posted by DarfiusAnd the difference is? If you don't maintain salvation you don't have it. Please tell me the difference between having salvation and keeping it.
That's not a rule for salvation. It's a rule to help maintain it.
I mean, if you have salvation, surely you are keeping it, and you certainly need to keep it in order to have it.
And you wonder why people are confused by Christianity.
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Originally posted by thesonofsaulIn other words, you don't have to follow the rule. It's just easier for you if you do. So I guess it's more of a suggestion from a man inspired by God than a rule.
And the difference is? If you don't maintain salvation you don't have it. Please tell me the difference between having salvation and keeping it.
I mean, if you have salvation, surely you are keeping it, and you certainly need to keep it in order to have it.
And you wonder why people are confused by Christianity.
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Originally posted by DarfiusOk. Hold on. I am definitely confused.
When did I EVER say it didn't sadden God or the angels when we sinned? I will assume you made a mistake and aren't lying, Nemesio.
Above, you agreed with the following statement:
What I mean is that if I had a grandfather in heaven, he wouldn't be able to see me sin or know about me sinning on Earth, for that would sadden him.
In agreeing with this, I understood a causal relationship: the
reason that the Dr's grandfather couldn't see him was because it
would sadden him.
If it saddens God or the angels when we sin, and that this is ok,
then why isn't it ok for dead people to see us sinning and be sad
about it?
Nemesio
Originally posted by DarfiusBut you said earlier that a widow needs to marry another Christian. Now you're saying that she just should marry another Christian, but doesn't have to to be saved? Are you just making this stuff up as you go along? For a person who claims to be enlightened, you certainly don't think the same thought for very long. I may be a heathen, but at least I'm consistant.
In other words, you don't have to follow the rule. It's just easier for you if you do. So I guess it's more of a suggestion from a man inspired by God than a rule.
One other thing you can try to clear up for me. I'm still unclear on the whole "written by man inspired by God" thing. Whose words are they? Are they Man's or are the God's? If they are God's, then you can't say they are imperfect because they are written by man. If they are man's, you can't say that they are the infallible Word of God.
Don't go around flip-flopping from issue to issue. That might work on the flock of the saved, but people around here actually have a thing called memory.
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Originally posted by thesonofsaulI think you should check my original post. I said should, not need.
But you said earlier that a widow needs to marry another Christian. Now you're saying that she just should marry another Christian, but doesn't have to to be saved? Are you just making this stuff up as you go along? For a person who claims to be enlightened, you certainly don't think the same thought for very long. I may be a heathen, but at leas ...[text shortened]... e flock of the saved, but people around here actually have a thing called memory.
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I think you should then offer me an apology.
If God is speaking through men, the Book is infallible. Or are you attempting to lessen His power because He chooses to display it through men?
Originally posted by DarfiusThis is what you said:
I think you should check my original post. I said should, not need.
I think you should then offer me an apology.
If God is speaking through men, the Book is infallible. Or are you attempting to lessen His power because He chooses to display it through men?
I'm telling you why God told us to marry other Christians.
If God tells you to do something, that doesn't sound like a
'should' to me. It sounds like a 'need.'
Don't you agree?
And, furthermore, I don't see any references to marriage; indeed,
the reference in 2 Cor 6:14-18 has to do with general relationships,
that believers shouldn't consort with unbelievers in matters of faith.
And, this does not have a permissive air to it (like a guidline),
it has an instructive air to it: Do not be yoked....
Nemesio
Originally posted by DarfiusDon't be ridiculous. I can no more lessen God's power than you can speak for Him. If God is speaking through men, the He is not inspiring. He is speaking, not inspiring. Speaking, not inspiring. I repeat myself here on the off chance that when you skim this post you will actually read the words if they appear more than once.
I think you should check my original post. I said should, not need.
I think you should then offer me an apology.
If God is speaking through men, the Book is infallible. Or are you attempting to lessen His power because He chooses to display it through men?
I think your other point has been covered, so there's no need to repeat it.
And I never offer an apology to people pompous enough to think they deserve one.
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