Originally posted by lemon limeWhat do you think he died of?
After 40 years of struggling to understand scripture and getting to know God I've only been able to identify two denominations I don't have any particular problem with... baptist and pentecostal. With nearly every other denomination (some I'm not familiar with) I've seen varying degrees of understanding and adherence to scripture.
Disagreement over som ...[text shortened]... eaten so badly before being nailed to a cross it astonishes me that he lasted as long as he did.
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(John 1:1 KJV)
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
(Genesis 1:26-27 KJV)
-Removed-When you respond to my explaining of eternal punishment by laboring to affix a sadistic attitude to me rather than a reasoned alternative explanation of relevant passages it is telling. It makes me assume that you don't have confidence in those kinds of counter arguments.
Or when some alternative explanation to those passages is not accepted by me you use that as evidence that I am sadistically eager for people to be punished forever.
I think then that what you have confidence in more is to portray Christians as sadists for believing those passages in their full force.
"God is love" (1 John 4:7) and "our God is a consuming fire" (Heb. 12:29) are not mutually exclusive truths.
We should believe both and trust God who has told us both.
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Originally posted by KellyJayI think he died of death.
What do you think he died of?
just kidding
I get your point. But if you take a closer look at what he said before dying, his death appears to be more of an act of the will rather than a body simply dying. When you consider (and if you believe) the sort of life saving and life resuscitating miracles he performed on other people, then there's no reason to believe he couldn't have done the same for himself... and by that I mean healing himself, and preventing himself from dying.
Originally posted by lemon limeJohn 10:18
I think he died of death.
just kidding
I get your point. But if you take a closer look at what he said before dying, his death appears to be more of an act of the will rather than a body simply dying. When you consider (and if you believe) the sort of life saving and life resuscitating miracles he performed on other people, then there's no re ...[text shortened]... e the same for himself... and by that I mean healing himself, and preventing himself from dying.
No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
