movement to atheism

@fmf said
I am not "bringing in" people like Kazetnagorra, Ghost of a Duke, wolfgang59 and ThinkOfOne. I am saying I have read your discussions with them and have nothing to add.

So you are backing off wanting to know why I mix science and faith, this no longer
is something you want to know even after you asked over and over?

@kellyjay said
Do you ever read the things you say?

Yes. That's why I am not questioning the honesty of your faith or your sincerity or your certainty. I have met countless people like you. All my life. I read the things you say. They are familiar. And there's nothing surprising or original about them. Your thing about your take on science and your faith is nothing new, either.

@fmf said
If you think it's "science", submit it to the scrutiny on the Science Forum. Show me a link to thread when you have done it.

I've seen your copious efforts to generate your own confirmation bias on this forum and I have nothing to add to what has been put to you and how you have been set straight by posters like Kazetnagorra, Ghost of a Duke, wolfgang59 and ThinkOfOne. Nothin ...[text shortened]... you had established that science and superstition in fact coincide. Until then the question stands.

You want to engage in this discussion on why I believe and say the things I have
said you need to start looking at my answers instead of changing the subject and
moving the goal posts. Watch that video, you want my reasons you need to see
the things I look at, than question me on the content you find in error or false. It
isn't my copious efforts to generate confirmation bias, the things I'm going to
share are my reasons for my views. You have them for your views, we all do, but if
you cannot handle the engagement I suggest you move on.

@kellyjay said
So you are backing off wanting to know why I mix science and faith, this no longer
is something you want to know even after you asked over and over?

Show me where you have submitted your notions to scientific scrutiny and can then demonstrate that they corroborate your faith. You've never done it to my knowledge on this forum. I cite your many and long discussions with the posters I cited and others. That your fellow superstitious people agree with you does not count. If you have done it on the Science Forum, show me where.

@kellyjay said
You want to engage in this discussion on why I believe and say the things I have
said you need to start looking at my answers instead of changing the subject and
moving the goal posts. Watch that video, you want my reasons you need to see
the things I look at, than question me on the content you find in error or false. It
isn't my copious efforts to generate confirmation ...[text shortened]... have them for your views, we all do, but if
you cannot handle the engagement I suggest you move on.

Put your video on the Science Forum. I will monitor how you fare.

@fmf said
Yes. That's why I am not questioning the honesty of your faith or your sincerity or your certainty. I have met countless people like you. All my life. I read the things you say. They are familiar. And there's nothing surprising or original about them. Your thing about your take on science and your faith is nothing new, either.

Than why badger me if you thought you knew the answers, and why not look at
what I asked you too to get a better understanding about why I think the way I do?

Difficult to see something new if all you do is ask a question you think you know
the answer too and refuse to listen to the answer.

@kellyjay said
Than why badger me if you thought you knew the answers, and why not look at
what I asked you too to get a better understanding about why I think the way I do?

Difficult to see something new if all you do is ask a question you think you know
the answer too and refuse to listen to the answer.

If you don't mean actual science but instead just mean it's-good-enough-for-you-as-long-as-it-backs-up-your-religious-beliefs "science", then you should just admit it.

@fmf said
I am not "bringing in" people like Kazetnagorra, Ghost of a Duke, wolfgang59 and ThinkOfOne. I am saying I have read your discussions with them and have nothing to add.

moonbus as well, of course. And there have been others.

@kellyjay said
You want to engage in this discussion on why I believe and say the things I have
said you need to start looking at my answers instead of changing the subject and
moving the goal posts.

I don't think I have moved any goalposts. You talk about "why I believe and say the things I have said". What I am interested in is why you feel the need to categorize it as "science". Show me how you fare on a thread where your "why I believe and say the things I have said" thing is scrutinized by people interested in science.

@fmf said
Show me where you have submitted your notions to scientific scrutiny and can then demonstrate that they corroborate your faith. You've never done it to my knowledge on this forum. I cite your many and long discussions with the posters I cited and others. That your fellow superstitious people agree with you does not count. If you have done it on the Science Forum, show me where.

Go look them up yourself, do you own stinking home work. You must be one of
the laziest people here, you badger me on my posting on science and faith than
refuse to start going over the things I need to show you.

You complained about wanting me to engage you in this discussion. I suggest you
start where I gave you my first response if you cannot at least be decent enough
to do that, you have shown you are not interested in this, all you really wanted to
do was badger me. Nothing here was left hanging other than your interest in
doing what you said, engage on the topic.

@kellyjay said
Go look them up yourself, do you own stinking home work. You must be one of
the laziest people here, you badger me on my posting on science and faith than
refuse to start going over the things I need to show you.

You complained about wanting me to engage you in this discussion. I suggest you
start where I gave you my first response if you cannot at least be decent enou ...[text shortened]... here was left hanging other than your interest in
doing what you said, engage on the topic.

I am happy to take a look at any threads on the Science Forum where you think you acquitted yourself well [in service of your science-faith thing].

@fmf said
If you don't mean actual science but instead just mean it's-good-enough-for-you-as-long-as-it-backs-up-your-religious-beliefs "science", then you should just admit it.

How would you know, you have yet to listen. I'm not the one refusing to respond
about something I was badgering someone to give me. That would be you, if you
have something specific to complain about concerning the information I have
provided I suggest you ask that. If all you are going to do is again is question
my motivation and thought processes without looking at the causes, cannot help
you. On an aside, of course I'm going to share what I think backs up my point
of view do you do anything differently when presenting your side of a discussion?

@fmf said
I am happy to take a look at any threads on the Science Forum where you think you acquitted yourself well [in service of your science-faith thing].

Why don't you just look at what I have already given to you, scared you may see
something you cannot answer?

@kellyjay said
Why don't you just look at what I have already given to you, scared you may see
something you cannot answer?

"Scared"? How so?

@kellyjay said
How would you know, you have yet to listen.

I am yet to listen to Christian creationists propagating their stuff about things like "intelligent design" and a "young earth"?