06 Oct 22
@kellyjay saidthere isn’t really a lot to your position
What content you don’t know and believe no one else can either, there isn’t really a lot to your position outside of that.
Part of my position is that I am questioning your premise. That's how discussions go. But you are constantly running away. I am questioning the language you are using in your efforts to superimpose the presuppositions you draw from your religious beliefs onto the unknowable aspects of this topic.
06 Oct 22
@fmf saidI asked a question that the information that drives life is that something you think can come about through mindlessness, goalless, processes with no way to care about success and failure, or a mind. You have answered that with the hard hitting response to the binary choice one of those are correct. So nothing of value from you outside of acknowledging the question and then saying that you don’t understand. What am I missing?
there isn’t really a lot to your position
Part of my position is that I am questioning your premise. That's how discussions go. But you are constantly running away. I am questioning the language you are using in your efforts to superimpose the presuppositions you draw from your religious beliefs onto the unknowable aspects of this topic.
06 Oct 22
@fmf saidBUMP for KellyJay
When you say "mind", do you mean like a human mind? And when you ask if an entity is "mindless", are you asking if it is non-human? And whether it has a human mind? Did you get your idea that the entity that might have caused the universe is a kind of humanoid from the ancient Hebrews?
06 Oct 22
@kellyjay said...that something you think can come about through mindlessness, goalless, processes with no way to care about success and failure, or a mind.
I asked a question that the information that drives life is that something you think can come about through mindlessness, goalless, processes with no way to care about success and failure, or a mind.
When you say the entity "cares", do you mean it "cares" like a human does, as in how a human "cares" for and "loves" his or her child or spouse, that kind of "care" like you get from a human "mind"?
You seem to be going balls to the wall with your fixation on anthropomorphizing the topic.
Where did you get your premise that the entity is essentially human? What about this "binary question": if there is a creator entity, is it human or non-human?
06 Oct 22
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@fmf saidThe question has to do with the instructions in life, and you want to turn it into
Pretty much the content and meaning of all my posts attempting to converse with you. Deliberately so, I think.
something to justify your anti-christ stance. Start your own thread, maybe there
are those who see the world as something a mindless beginning could do will join
you.
@kellyjay saidDon't run away from my attempts to engage what you are putting forward for discussion. Address what I am saying in the same way as I am addressing what you are saying. Show some good faith. Don't just run away.
The question has to do with the instructions in life, and you want to turn it into
something to justify your anti-christ stance. Start your own thread, maybe there
are those who see the world as something a mindless beginning could do will join
you.
06 Oct 22
@kellyjay saidEverything I am posting is on-topic and so this is the thread where it belongs. To say that THIS thread is not for "those who see the world as something a mindless beginning", as you put it, is an unguarded revelation that you are not discussing this topic in good faith.
Start your own thread, maybe there
are those who see the world as something a mindless beginning could do will join
you.
07 Oct 22
@fmf saidMindlessness or mind, you grasp the concepts?
Don't run away from my attempts to engage what you are putting forward for discussion. Address what I am saying in the same way as I am addressing what you are saying. Show some good faith. Don't just run away.