Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI've never really considered you to provide much in the way of "conversational value", Grampy Bobby. And your concern is wasted on me as I am an ex-Christian. Your inability to address my comments head on is noted. Your either/or dilemma logical fallacy, your failed analogy about divegeester, your entreaty to join you in groupthink, and your hyper-partisan "There Is No Middle Ground" chest-beating religionist OP, are all wasted on me. Happy New Year!
Any conversational value here is trumped by my concern for your immortal soul.
Originally posted by FMFOh, you know... he's prolly thinking I didn't really contemplate the op properly...
Did Gramps get back to you on this one?
Thing is ,I reckon that non christian posters like to NOT get into the spirit of christian posters just as much as christian posters like to come into non christian thread with their inane drivel about JC.
God, when I first posted here I really didn't think I would be talking about Jesus so much. I mean , there are so many other religions and religious views.
I think jaywill has got the right attitude for posting as opposed to say RJHinds,as far as the christians around here go.(not saying that some other christians aren't also discreet like that , but sometimes you just have to "scratch your head"."
No middle ground indeed. Whatever.
Originally posted by karoly aczelHow is one supposed to "get into the spirit of" of clumsy false dilemmas like the one in this thread's OP?
Thing is ,I reckon that non christian posters like to NOT get into the spirit of christian posters just as much as christian posters like to come into non christian thread with their inane drivel about JC.
Originally posted by FMFIt's not my place to argue with you (or anyone else) regarding what or whom you place your confidence in. I respect your volition. Christianity is a relationship, not a religion, and is based on the work being done by God not us. Once you believe in Christ you're family. You may receive discipline but you never lose your family status. Your public emotionalism and bitterness evidence confusion and frustration, which suggests you're seeking to come to grips with and to fill the emptiness in your immortal soul. My concern for you isn't wasted because it's genuine and above being cheapened by any bravado or crass comments in public.
I've never really considered you to provide much in the way of "conversational value", Grampy Bobby. And your concern is wasted on me as I am an ex-Christian. Your inability to address my comments head on is noted. Your either/or dilemma logical fallacy, your failed analogy about divegeester, your entreaty to join you in groupthink, and your hyper-partisa ...[text shortened]... re Is No Middle Ground" chest-beating religionist OP, are all wasted on me. Happy New Year!
Originally posted by FMFOP makes no such request. To the contrary, it delivers a terse statement of reality whether anybody
How is one supposed to "get into the spirit of" of clumsy false dilemmas like the one in this thread's OP?
likes it or not. I'm not selling "The Grateful Dead", my blogspot, my labor of love or anything else.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYour sneering has no impact on me, Grampy Bobby. Your religionist package strikes me as no more or less valid than Dasa's.
It's not my place to argue with you (or anyone else) regarding what or whom you place your confidence in. I respect your volition. Christianity is a relationship, not a religion, and is based on the work being done by God not us. Once you believe in Christ you're family. You may receive discipline but you never lose your family status. Your public emoti ...[text shortened]... because it's genuine and above being cheapened by any bravado or crass comments in public.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo, if your OP turns out to contain false material, we cannot conclude that you made a mistake and are a 'good man' who is in error, but instead, we must conclude by your own argument that you are a fraud and imposter and a 'bad man'.
[b]No Middle Ground
Christ was either who and what He claimed to be or he was the worst fraud and imposter
the world has ever known. No ordinary 'good man' would make such outrageous claims.
Boston Lad[/b]