1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    06 Aug '14 20:26
    The Book of Revelation - Will There be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture?

    I am sorry to say, but this pastor gives convincing proof that there will be no pre-tribulation rapture for the believers. I guess that many will take this as just more ammunition for those that see God as so sadistic that he will even make the believers go through the tribulation of the last days.
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    06 Aug '14 20:38
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Book of Revelation - Will There be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture?

    I am sorry to say, but this pastor gives convincing proof that there will be no pre-tribulation rapture for the believers. I guess that many will take this as just more ammunition for those that see God as so sadistic that he will even make the believers go through the tribulation of the last days.
    I thought the last days had already started a few years back?
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    06 Aug '14 20:38
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Book of Revelation - Will There be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture?

    I am sorry to say, but this pastor gives convincing proof that there will be no pre-tribulation rapture for the believers. I guess that many will take this as just more ammunition for those that see God as so sadistic that he will even make the believers go through the tribulation of the last days.
    What Pastor? I'm not sure of pre-trib, mid-trib nor post-trib, but it does not matter...
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    06 Aug '14 20:39
    What is this rapture anyway?


    Hey, where is everyone?
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    06 Aug '14 20:56
    Originally posted by divegeester
    What is this rapture anyway?


    Hey, where is everyone?
    Its a Blondie [Debbie Harry] hit back in the 70s.
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    06 Aug '14 21:121 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    What is this rapture anyway?


    Hey, where is everyone?
    The Rapture is a term that refers to the believers that remain alive and are changed to incorruptible so they can be caught up in the clouds to meet Jesus upon His second coming.

    But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him.

    For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the Archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17)

    Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.


    (1 Corithians 15:51-52)
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    06 Aug '14 21:24
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Rapture is a term that refers to the believers that remain alive and are changed to incorruptible so they can be caught up in the clouds to meet Jesus upon His second coming.

    But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus d ...[text shortened]... he dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.


    (1 Corithians 15:51-52)
    I see. Thanks.

    I'm going to go to bed now ok. YOU need to lock up...you got that.
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    06 Aug '14 22:44
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    What Pastor? I'm not sure of pre-trib, mid-trib nor post-trib, but it does not matter...
    I agree with you, if you die before any of those three, who cares?
    I've heard so may different things about what people believe with respect
    to the rapture and tribulation it isn't funny. Some believe the good are
    taken, some believe the bad are, some believe pre, mid, post and others
    reject the whole thing. 🙂
    Kelly
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    07 Aug '14 00:40
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Book of Revelation - Will There be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture?

    I am sorry to say, but this pastor gives convincing proof that there will be no pre-tribulation rapture for the believers. I guess that many will take this as just more ammunition for those that see God as so sadistic that he will even make the believers go through the tribulation of the last days.
    I have never agreed with a pre-tribulation rapture.

    The only 'rapture' will be post-tribulation when Christ finally returns.

    All these Christians thinking they're getting a 'free ride' past the worst episode in human history need to think twice about this and what they will do if they are not 'raptured out' pre-tribulation, because it WILL get ugly.
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    07 Aug '14 05:01
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    I have never agreed with a pre-tribulation rapture.

    The only 'rapture' will be post-tribulation when Christ finally returns.

    All these Christians thinking they're getting a 'free ride' past the worst episode in human history need to think twice about this and what they will do if they are not 'raptured out' pre-tribulation, because it WILL get ugly.
    So it's a pre-rapture tribulation for you.

    Is that worth an each-way bet?
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    07 Aug '14 06:42
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    So it's a pre-rapture tribulation for you.

    Is that worth an each-way bet?
    I am sure that all believers in Christ, including Suzianne, would prefer that the rapture of believers would occur before any great tribulation. However, Suzianne has realized that the Holy Scripture seems to teach otherwise as the Pastor in the video points out.
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    07 Aug '14 06:58
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I agree with you, if you die before any of those three, who cares?
    I've heard so may different things about what people believe with respect
    to the rapture and tribulation it isn't funny. Some believe the good are
    taken, some believe the bad are, some believe pre, mid, post and others
    reject the whole thing. 🙂
    Kelly
    Yeah, and some people believe the earth is about 4.6 billion years old and humans are at least 2 million years old, but I can't find that in the Holy Bible.
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    07 Aug '14 09:04
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I agree with you, if you die before any of those three, who cares?
    I've heard so may different things about what people believe with respect
    to the rapture and tribulation it isn't funny. Some believe the good are
    taken, some believe the bad are, some believe pre, mid, post and others
    reject the whole thing. 🙂
    Kelly
    Amazing fantasy life you lead to believe in such nonsense.
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    07 Aug '14 22:14
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Amazing fantasy life you lead to believe in such nonsense.
    I do believe Christ is coming back, and each of us are going to die.
    Kelly
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    07 Aug '14 22:49
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I do believe Christ is coming back, and each of us are going to die.
    Kelly
    The second part is true at least. Did you not read that verse in Mathew where JC says some of you will not be dead before I come back or words to that effect? Saying this rapture thing and all that end day stuff is going to happen quite soon, not 2000 years later. The amazing part is how people can STAY duped with that nonsense millennium after millennium.

    Sure says something about the alleged intelligence of the human race.
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