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    28 Jul '17 17:05
    Was Noah saved by faith alone? Or was Noah required to believe first then act on that belief?

    Would another person have been saved if he had created the exact same ark as Noah without belief in God?
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    28 Jul '17 17:13
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Was Noah saved by faith alone? Or was Noah required to believe first then act on that belief?

    Would another person have been saved if he had created the exact same ark as Noah without belief in God?
    Supposedly, God spoke directly to Noah. Belief and faith seem easy when God speaks directly to you.
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    28 Jul '17 17:161 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Was Noah saved by faith alone? Or was Noah required to believe first then act on that belief?

    Would another person have been saved if he had created the exact same ark as Noah without belief in God?
    Noah was saved because he believed god when god instructed him to build the ark to avoid a flood that was coming. So he built it and didn't drown. God spoke to him because god saw him as living a righteous life. So he was righteous before god first and then believed.

    However I have no idea how he new to be righteous or what righteous living even was. So I assume he was given instruction which he believed.

    Therefore the sequence was faith/believing, acting, then more faith. I think this aligns with scripture "faith comes through hearing the word".
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    28 Jul '17 17:17
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Was Noah saved by faith alone? Or was Noah required to believe first then act on that belief?

    Would another person have been saved if he had created the exact same ark as Noah without belief in God?
    A combination of faith and righteous living.

    The answer to your second question is probably not.
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    28 Jul '17 17:19
    Anyone interested in the questions I posed,especially the second one?

    It seems to me that Noah had God's truth written on his heart.
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    28 Jul '17 17:20
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    A combination of faith and righteous living.

    The answer to your second question is probably not.
    Would the second man's door get shut?
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    28 Jul '17 17:20
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Anyone interested in the questions I posed,especially the second one?

    It seems to me that Noah had God's truth written on his heart.
    I've just made a perfectly on topic comment, is there a reason why you are ignoring it?
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    28 Jul '17 17:22
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Anyone interested in the questions I posed,especially the second one?

    It seems to me that Noah had God's truth written on his heart.
    Yes, that is biblically supported (Romans etc) and would seem to answer Dive's question 'how he knew to be righteous or what righteous living even was.'
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    28 Jul '17 17:24
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    I've just made a perfectly on topic comment, is there a reason why you are ignoring it?
    I did not ignore it. As I said he Moah may have had God's truth wtitten on his heart.
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    28 Jul '17 17:261 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    I did not ignore it. As I said he Moah may have had God's truth wtitten on his heart.
    Hopefully God had a decent spell-checker.
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    28 Jul '17 17:40
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Hopefully God had a decent spell-checker.
    Yep, this phone typing has its moments.
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    28 Jul '17 17:42
    I am hoping Rojk answers the first question too. He is such a people do not need God kind of guy.
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    28 Jul '17 17:511 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    I am hoping Rojk answers the first question too. He is such a people do not need God kind of guy.
    Yeah I get that, but at least his version of god doesn't burn people at the stake for eternity because they don't believe in him.
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    28 Jul '17 17:56
    Originally posted by @eladar
    I am hoping Rojk answers the first question too. He is such a people do not need God kind of guy.
    Everybody needs God, and many people have God in their lives. Those who live righteously have God in their lives. Those who live sinful unrighteous lives do not have God but Satan in their lives.
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    28 Jul '17 18:00
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Everybody needs God, and many people have God in their lives. Those who live righteously have God in their lives. Those who live sinful unrighteous lives do not have God but Satan in their lives.
    What is this is nonsense? The teachings of Jesus must have had an undue influence on the formation of your beliefs.
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