Obedience vs Disobedience

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Educate yourself and read up a little on moral absolutism.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Educate yourself and read up a little on moral absolutism.

Flight 571?

Originally posted by @fmf
Flight 571?

Educate yourself and read up a little on moral absolutism, then you will see that flight 571 is irrelevant.

Originally posted by @fmf
A lot of people declare their own moral sensibilities - and all the personal preferences and personal opinions intertwined with them - to be "objective", you are among them. At one point you seem to be declaring eating human flesh to be wrong because of an objective standard and then you admitted that it was a personal opinion. The two are not interchangeable in the way you seem to think they are.

Subscribing to moral absolutism is a personal choice, what's your point?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Educate yourself and read up a little on moral absolutism, then you will see that flight 571 is irrelevant.

So what is your opinion about what the survivors of Flight 571 did?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Subscribing to moral absolutism is a personal choice, what's your point?

Well, clearly what has happened here ~ the point, as you put it ~ is that you've been rumbled.

Originally posted by @fmf
Well, clearly what has happened here ~ the point, as you put it ~ is that you've been rumbled.

The rumbling you hear must be your tummy. Find something to eat, preferably not human flesh. 😉

Originally posted by @fmf
So what is your opinion about what the survivors of Flight 571 did?

My opinion doesn't matter if I believe the Bible says it is wrong.

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If the Bible says something is wrong, would you regard it as being subjective?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
My opinion doesn't matter if I believe the Bible says it is wrong.

It is your personal opinion - entirely rooted in your subjectivity - that ancient Hebrew writings have some kind of bearing on what happened to the survivors of Flight 571 and any moral issues surrounding what they did. Declaring this personal opinion of yours "objective" is merely pretentious and doesn't change the fact that it is your personal opinion, nor does it make your personal opinion any more persuasive or justified

Originally posted by @fmf
It is your personal opinion - entirely rooted in your subjectivity - that ancient Hebrew writings have some kind of bearing on what happened to the survivors of Flight 571 and any moral issues surrounding what they did. Declaring this personal opinion of yours "objective" is merely pretentious and doesn't change the fact that it is your personal opinion, nor does it make your personal opinion any more persuasive or justified

You still don't get it. The Bible is regarded as an objective moral standard by some of those who subscribe to moral absolutism. If the Bible clearly says that something is wrong it remains wrong to them regardless of their own personal opinions or feelings regarding the issue. What the Bible says on moral issues is not my personal opinion so it is not rooted in my subjectivity as you say.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
You still don't get it. The Bible is regarded as an objective moral standard by some of those who subscribe to moral absolutism. If the Bible clearly says that something is wrong it remains wrong to them regardless of their own personal opinions or feelings regarding the issue. What the Bible says on moral issues is not my personal opinion so it is not rooted in my subjectivity as you say.

I totally get what you're trying to do and why you are trying it. Look. You may believe that using the word "objective" sprinkles some kind of magic dust on your superstitious opinions, but if you think doing so actually alters or transforms, in my mind, what are in fact merely your personal opinions ~ if you are sprinkling the magic vocabulary dust for my benefit ~ then you are wasting your time. If, however, you are doing it to puff yourself up, as I suspect is the case, then be my guest.

Originally posted by @fmf
I totally get what you're trying to do and why you are trying it. Look. You may believe that using the word "objective" sprinkles some kind of magic dust on your superstitious opinions, but if you think doing so actually alters or transforms, in my mind, what are in fact merely your personal opinions ~ if you are sprinkling the magic vocabulary dust for my bene ...[text shortened]... . If, however, you are doing it to puff yourself up, as I suspect is the case, then be my guest.

The word 'objective' has absolutely nothing to do with magic dust. It is quite obvious that you are just deliberately trying to be obtuse. If you think the words in the Bible on which I base my morality are my personal opinions it means you have either suffered from a seizure or you are just acting brain-dead. I have a suspicion it is the latter. Do everyone a favor and read up what an objective moral standard is.

Originally posted by @fmf
So what is your opinion about what the survivors of Flight 571 did?

I think you are saying do not submit to abuse, even if everyone dies.