Obedience vs Disobedience

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I gave you the definition of the word objective before. How is it corrupted or distorted?

It is corrupted and distorted by you in exactly the way that I have already explained in posts that I typed out and addressed to you. You must have read them. Surely Why are you asking me about it again?

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I asked you what you believed. Are you going to keep on dodging the question?

Originally posted by @fmf
You are entitled to regard whatever you want as being a "law" that applies to you. You are entitled to regard whatever supernatural instructions and rules you want as being stuff that applies to you and even to everyone else (including those who believe different stuff). It doesn't make it "an objective moral law". You use the word "objective" where what you me ...[text shortened]... . you are very, very, very sincere about how true whatever has tickled your subjective fancy is.

What you mean to say is that it doesn't make it objective from your point of view. The question is this, is everyone's point of view right?

Originally posted by @fmf
It is corrupted and distorted by you in exactly the way that I have already explained in posts that I typed out and addressed to you. You must have read them. Surely Why are you asking me about it again?

I gave a dictionary definition. Your rejection of it is neither here nor there.

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I have a life you know 😉 No phones allowed when taking the wife out for lunch.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
What you mean to say is that it doesn't make it objective from your point of view. The question is this, is everyone's point of view right?

The crux of it is this: your superstitions do not create any objective facts aside from some objective facts regarding what your superstitions happen to be.

Originally posted by @fmf
The crux of it is this: your superstions do not create any objective facts aside from some objective facts regarding what your superstitions happen to be.

Either you assume that an objective standard exists or you assume that it doesn't. If you assume that it doesn't it's free for all.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Either you assume that an objective standard exists or you assume that it doesn't. If you assume that it doesn't it's free for all.

You don’t offer an objective standard. You have an obsession with supernatural causality which is purely subjective.

Originally posted by @fmf
You don’t offer an objective standard. You have an obsession with supernatural causality which is purely subjective.

From your perspective maybe I don't. Is your perspective objectively correct? How can you say that my perspective is wrong? Unless you assume that your perspective is objectively correct?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
How can you say that my perspective is wrong?

I have said that your superstitious perspective is not objective, despite your insistence that it is. Whether you believe you are right or wrong, or whether you believe I am right or wrong, does not affect the lack of objectivity of what you are asserting. Gosh it's as if you've never read any of my posts.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Is your perspective objectively correct?

Good grief, like I said, it's as if you've never read any of my posts. Have you not understood what I have been saying about the word "objective"? How can you ask such an uncomprehending question after all the discussions we've had. Read what I post!

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I gave a dictionary definition. Your rejection of it is neither here nor there.

Your judgment and declarations regarding morality are influenced by your personal feelings, preferences and opinions in your consideration and representation of what you claim to be facts. You have even admitted you cannot prove that any of the assertions you make about supernatural things are true. So your moral perspective is entirely subjective. Whacking on the label "objective" does not alter this.

Originally posted by @fmf
I have said that your superstitious perspective [b]is not objective, despite your insistence that it is. Whether you believe you are right or wrong, or whether you believe I am right or wrong, does not affect the lack of objectivity of what you are asserting. Gosh it's as if you've never read any of my posts.[/b]

Ok take one of the ten commandments and show me how it forms a subjective moral law.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Ok take one of the ten commandments and show me how it forms a subjective moral law.

Your liking for Hebrew mythology, and your insistence that those commandments are of supernatural origin, is an outcome of your subjectivity. You got your moral sensibilities from the culture you grew up in, just like I did.