Of what worth is your God?

@fmf said
Don't you believe you are going to "earn" your way into "God's Kingdom" by virtue of your belief in Jesus ["regardless of merit", regardless of how "wicked and evil" you insist you are] ~ whereas people like me deserve to be tortured for our lack of belief in all this? How does this make any moral sense?

I am not earning my way in, I told you it isn’t on merits but grace.

@fmf said
There may be something you call "following Satan in his rebellion against God" that appeals to your imagination but I don't believe your torturer god exists and I don't believe "Satan" exists. Trotting out your mythology/dogma does not constitute an answer to the questions you were ostensibly responding to.

And?

@kellyjay said
And?

Why not answer the questions?

@kellyjay said
I am not earning my way in, I told you it isn’t on merits but grace.

Of course you are: you are seeking to earn your way to everlasting life with convoluted misanthropic groupist doubleplusgoodthink.

@kellyjay said
I am not earning my way in, I told you it isn’t on merits but grace.

The fact is that it's "grace" with a condition. Only those who meet that condition, merit grace. Those who do not meet that condition, do not merit grace.

If it were truly grace without merit, there wouldn't be any conditions.

-Removed-

Judging by some of his threads and some things he talks about, sonship's "ministry" away from here might often involve him preying on vulnerable or weakminded people ~ victims he tries to bully, perhaps with his self-sanctified "biblical" abuse.

@fmf said
Of course you are: you are seeking to earn your way to everlasting life with convoluted misanthropic groupist doubleplusgoodthink.

Your lack of understanding is amazing

@thinkofone said
The fact is that it's "grace" with a condition. Only those who meet that condition, merit grace. Those who do not meet that condition, do not merit grace.

If it were truly grace without merit, there wouldn't be any conditions.

You are mistaken there is the narrow path, the door, which is Jesus Christ salvation is in Him. Then the relationship begins with Him as Lord. I guess you missed that part of your life as a Christian, or not who knows?

@kellyjay said
Your lack of understanding is amazing

This is mere deflection.

@fmf said
There may be something you call "following Satan in his rebellion against God" that appeals to your imagination but I don't believe your torturer god exists and I don't believe "Satan" exists. Trotting out your mythology/dogma does not constitute an answer to the questions you were ostensibly responding to.

So you're just using those concepts (that you don't believe in) merely to "run him down". And this is "principle" for you?

@suzianne said
So you're just using those concepts (that you don't believe in) merely to "run him down". And this is "principle" for you?

If you think discussion of his beliefs makes him look bad in some way, that's a matter for you.