Originally posted by galveston75Go challenge yourself and try to reconcile the doctrine of the JWs with that of Christ and Paul.
Ok a simple challenge for you. If you can....
Show me one piece of evidence that any of "God's true followers" at any time in history celibrated their birthday?
Nothing more, nothing less. Show me the proof from any source and we'll talk more about this.
I dont intend to get involved in disproving all your nonsensical doctrines. There are several things that a little common sense should tell you. The Bible is not a complete and exhaustive compilation of all the activities of all the followers of God throughout the ages. If Christ or Paul said nothing about birthdays then any serious religious group should do likewise .. SAY NOTHING ABOUT BIRTHDAYS, OR CHRISTMAS, OR MOTHERS DAY ... THOSE ARE NOT IMPORTANT ISSUES.
The Bible made adverse comments about DOGS. Nowhere are dogs spoken of in a good light. Should we conclude therefore that we should not have dogs as pets? NO. Simple reason is that Dogs are a non-issue as are birthdays, and other trivial dates in ones life.
Paul said:
Rom 14:5-6 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
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Originally posted by Rajk999If you can't back up your challenge that birthdays are ok then back off about it. Prove it was done anytime by God's people or shut up about it.
Go challenge yourself and try to reconcile the doctrine of the JWs with that of Christ and Paul.
I dont intend to get involved in disproving all your nonsensical doctrines. There are several things that a little common sense should tell you. The Bible is not a complete and exhaustive compilation of all the activities of all the followers of God throughout ...[text shortened]... iveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. [/i]
PS..Dogs? are you serious?
Originally posted by galveston75This is the kind of irrational logic that cause people to laugh at you.
If you can't back up your challenge that birthdays are ok then back off about it. Prove it was done anytime by God's people or shut up about it.
PS..Dogs? are you serious?
The bible is silent on the issue of birthdays so there is nothing for me to prove except to say that serious religious groups should be silent as well.
If you make an issue of birthdays then the onus is on you to prove that its an issue, but so far you have no proof.
Originally posted by Rajk999You really don't get it do you? Research, research, research.
This is the kind of irrational logic that cause people to laugh at you.
The bible is silent on the issue of birthdays so there is nothing for me to prove except to say that serious religious groups should be silent as well.
If you make an issue of birthdays then the onus is on you to prove that its an issue, but so far you have no proof.
Who celibrated birthdays?
Is it a God supported event?
What examples are in the Bible about birthdays?
Use spiritual wisdom and connect the dots.....................
Dogs? Really?
Originally posted by galveston75I don't recall that Paul went from door to door and knocking on strangers
Why do you think we are superior to anything Paul said?
How do we contradict what he said?
Did Jesus not say to preach the gospel?
Did Paul not preach the gospel?
Do we not go door to door as they both did to preach the gospel?
Where have we said that anyone is now is condemned?
Who have we judged?
When did we say we are superior?
Your miss ...[text shortened]... of you to see this is what all of you should be doing.
How is that wrong??????????????????
doors so he could preach and teach to them like the Jehovah's Witnesses.
I believe Paul mainly taught and preached publicly and in the houses of
those people that invited him.
Originally posted by RJHindsSo how is going door to door so different? Cities and towns as we know them are different today aren't they? Not too many little squares like the old villages used to have. And just going to some big open area is cool and we do that too and on street corners, but did not Jesus say go door to door? Didn't he do that too? Isn't that more personal and doesn't it give us and the ones at their homes that ability to discuss more and answer more directly the questions or objections that they may have?
I don't recall that Paul went from door to door and knocking on strangers
doors so he could preach and teach to them like the Jehovah's Witnesses.
I believe Paul mainly taught and preached publicly and in the houses of
those people that invited him.
Please well me the disadvantages of doing this? Is a huge group teaching better then a one on one teaching of a student?
Originally posted by galveston75Research, and connecting the dots is exactly what has caused the JWs to go astray. The Bible contains teachings from inspired Apostles who had the Holy Spirit gifts, and these apostles laid down in detail all the doctrines and matters pertaining to conduct which affect ones salvation. You are not entitled to add to them.
You really don't get it do you? Research, research, research.
Who celibrated birthdays?
Is it a God supported event?
What examples are in the Bible about birthdays?
Use spiritual wisdom and connect the dots.....................
Dogs? Really?
Originally posted by RJHindsI don't recall that Paul went from door to door - RJH
I don't recall that Paul went from door to door and knocking on strangers
doors so he could preach and teach to them like the Jehovah's Witnesses.
I believe Paul mainly taught and preached publicly and in the houses of
those people that invited him.
(Acts 20:20) . . .while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were
profitable nor from teaching you publicly and from house to house. . .
sigh.
Originally posted by galveston75Did you say Jesus went knocking from door to door of total stranges so He
So how is going door to door so different? Cities and towns as we know them are different today aren't they? Not too many little squares like the old villages used to have. And just going to some big open area is cool and we do that too and on street corners, but did not Jesus say go door to door? Didn't he do that too? Isn't that more personal and doesn ...[text shortened]... ages of doing this? Is a huge group teaching better then a one on one teaching of a student?
could preach and teach to them? Where is the reference? I apparently
overlooked that part. I am not saying He did not do it, I just don't remember
reading about it. Reference please, if you can.
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Originally posted by ZahlanziIt is up to Yahshua (Jesus) to determine if his repentance is sincere.
and does works.
believing a serial killer would be saved just by asking to be saved is idiotic.
If so, and His soul is saved, he must still be judged according to his
works while in the body. No one gets away "scot-free" in God's Kingdom.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe important parts of that passage is not the house to house part.
I don't recall that Paul went from door to door - RJH
(Acts 20:20) . . .while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were
profitable nor from teaching you publicly and from house to house. . .
sigh.
Its the part is that Paul taught and preached and did not withhold any important doctrines. Any JW doctrine in excess of what was taught by Paul is of no consequence.
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Originally posted by Rajk999Frankly i dont care what you think is important, the scripture is quite clear, Paul taught
The important parts of that passage is not the house to house part.
Its the part is that Paul taught and preached and did not withhold any important doctrines. Any JW doctrine in excess of what was taught by Paul is of no consequence.
persons publicly and in private homes and no amount of unfounded cynicism on your
part can negate this self evident truth! He also taught persons at the market place, in
the synagogue and elsewhere, which one of these is more important than the others?