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Paul Was Wrong

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Originally posted by @sonship
We do not promise to do better, to improve, to resist harder. No.
What would be the downside of Christians promising "to do better, to improve, to resist [sin] harder"?

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In the previous post I said something about focusing on a particular sin.
As we grow we will eventually be enlightened that even our good behavior can be apart from God.

Then we repent of not just our weaknesses but even our natural strengths.
That is our living by ourselves apart from Christ.

The former are usually ugly things that we hate that we repent of.
The latter situation is the refined and cultured things in us which replace Christ.

We learn to confess our sins - the ugly ones.
We go on to confess our living by ourselves, not depending on Christ.
This is a bit harder.

It is easy to see "God doesn't want my gluttony."
It is harder to see "God neither wants my natural goodness."

God wants me to live Christ.
He only wants Christ. He wants Christ lived out of us.

God wants Christ to live on the earth again. But this time Christ will live in the Christian and out from the Christian, literally.

"It is no longer I who live, but it is Christ who lives in me ..." (See Gal. 2:20)

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Originally posted by @divegeester
Do you feel the same way about gluttony not being explicitly called out in the NT, or do you just want to keep avoiding what god is telling you and pick and choose how you apply your own standards to understanding scripture?
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Originally posted by @eladar
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Originally posted by @eladar
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I guess you concede the point about gluttony then?

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Originally posted by @divegeester
I guess you concede the point about gluttony then?
I concede that you beliebe that being overweight is the same thing as being a glutton.

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Originally posted by @eladar
I concede that you beliebe that being overweight is the same thing as being a glutton.
How many scriptures on a topic do you need to make something a valid truth?

(I'm referring of course to all the times I've bumped your exchange earlier this thread and you have ignored it.)

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Originally posted by @eladar
I concede that you beliebe that being overweight is the same thing as being a glutton.
If one didn't at too much one wouldn't be overweight.

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Originally posted by @divegeester
If one didn't at too much one wouldn't be overweight.
I know that's your belief.

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Originally posted by @eladar
I know that's your belief.
It's amusing to see you so adamant and tough-guy hard-Christian elsewhere, and yet so unable to face my question in this thread. Probably due the hyprocrsy we both know you revealed.

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Originally posted by @divegeester
It's amusing to see you so adamant and tough-guy hard-Christian elsewhere, and yet so unable to face my question in this thread. Probably due the hyprocrsy we both know you revealed.

*page 3 post 5 😉
Funny how allowing you to live in your ignorance is perceived as being soft.

I had a friend whose family came over here after the war in Viet Nam. His younger brother was getting very fat so the grandmother decided no more American food. After switching back to healthier Vietnamese food he dropped down to a normal weight.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Funny how allowing you to live in your ignorance is perceived as being soft.

I had a friend whose family came over here after the war in Viet Nam. His younger brother was getting very fat so the grandmother decided no more American food. After switching back to healthier Vietnamese food he dropped down to a normal weight.
How many scriptures on a topic do you need to make something a valid truth?

(I'm referring of course to all the times I've bumped your exchange earlier this thread and you have ignored it.)

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Originally posted by @divegeester
How many scriptures on a topic do you need to make something a valid truth?

(I'm referring of course to all the times I've bumped your exchange earlier this thread and you have ignored it.)
Gluttony is based on mass consumption. Your definition has to do with fat. Just because you are wrong that does not mean scripture is wrong.