@kingdavid403 saidIt wasn't banter. I think you are letting hyperbole get the better of you.
lol, oh good come back.
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@fmf saidWell, learn some accurate language before you speak then fool.
I am not "judging" anyone for their beliefs. I am interested in accurate language to discuss these things, though.
You communication and train of thought is breaking up and you cannot keep your attack together any longer; I'm sure you will be going soon now fool.
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@kingdavid403 saidI think that applying the label "Christian" to people who "DO NOT believe that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus actually happened" renders the word "Christian" practically meaningless.
I find it hilarious that you, a non-believer who use to believe, that you are judging others as legitimate Christians or not. Hilarious.
I don't see that there's any discursive/philosophical benefit to be gained from diluting the meaning of the word ["Christian"] which is used to refer to people who "DO believe that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus actually happened".
@kingdavid403 saidYawn.
Well, learn some accurate language before you speak then fool.
You communication and train of thought is breaking up and you cannot keep your attack together any longer; I'm sure you will be going soon now fool.
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@fmf saidI think that applying the label "Christian" to people who "do not believe that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus actually happened" renders the word "Christian" practically meaningless.
I think that applying the label "Christian" to people who "do not believe that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus actually happened" renders the word "Christian" practically meaningless.
I don't see that there's any discursive/philosophical benefit to be gained from diluting the meaning of the word ["Christian"] which is used to refer to people who "do believe that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus actually happened".
Well, they did not think that the death and resurrection of Jesus actually happened. They believed it was a story sent by God that they were suppose to follow as teachings from God; however, they did not believe the gospel of Jesus actually happened. The 'age of reason' they called that time period.
@kingdavid403 saidIt seems you are merely referring, then, to some intellectuals, deists and writers during "The Enlightenment" a few hundred years ago.
Well they did not think so. They believed it was a story sent by God that they were suppose to follow as teachings from God; however, they did not believe the gospel of Jesus actually happened. The 'age of reason' they called that time period.
@kingdavid403 said"They"?
Well, they did not think that the death and resurrection of Jesus actually happened.
If you think that there's any benefit to be gained from diluting the meaning of the word used to refer to people who "do believe that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus actually happened", then say what it is.
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@fmf saidVery good.
It seems you are merely referring, then, to some intellectuals, deists and writers during "The Enlightenment" a few hundred years ago.
Much more than some; many.
Yes, I am referring, then, to the churches, intellectuals, deists and writers during "The Enlightenment" a few hundred years ago. Yes, "The Age of Reason." Anything else? Yawn.
@kingdavid403 said"Many"?
Very good.
Much more than some; many.
Yes, I am referring, then, to the churches, intellectuals, deists and writers during "The Enlightenment" a few hundred years ago.
"The churches"?
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@fmf saidyep, In the USA at that time anyway; and, we were still under British rule. Christianity was extremely liberal at that time. Christianity did not get more conservative, again, until the early or mid 1800s.
"Many"?
"The churches"?
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@kingdavid403 saidWhich Christian churches teach that "the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus never actually happened"?
yep
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@kingdavid403 saidYou are claiming that, when the USA was "still under British rule", the Christian churches taught that "the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus never actually happened"?
In the USA at that time anyway; and, we were still under British rule.
@kingdavid403 saidIf you are suggesting there was somewhat of a heyday for some tiny number of intellectuals pushing back against traditional beliefs during "The Enlightenment", then no one is going to dispute that, but the assertion that "most Christians in America and Europe at that time" believed that "the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus never actually happened" is nonsense.
Christianity was extremely liberal at that time. Christianity did not get more conservative, again, until the early or mid 1800s.