Practical politics and practical spirituality

@kingdavid403 said
Please share with us how you did it, and, maybe show us the way with concrete evidence or concrete actions.

"Concrete evidence" of what?

@fmf said
"Concrete evidence" of what?

Your morality.

@fmf said
Oh well. No thanks. I've started countless threads about morality.

As you wish.

@fmf said
Then I am not interested in taking up any of your time.

See, I told you there is a God. 🙂

@fmf said
There are countless atheists who absolutey do care about what theists believe. And countless that don't. So I don't think there's much of a binding-them-all-together "doctrine" to be found there.

There are many Christians that are not bound together with anybody. I happen to be one of them. We all believe in God; however, that's about where it ends. Kind of like how you just described the various groups of atheist's from around the world.

@kingdavid403 said
Your morality.

No. I am not interested in this request.

@kingdavid403 said
There are many Christians that are not bound together with anybody.

If you are a Christian then you are bound to other Christians by beliefs, doctrines, aspirations and scriptures pertaining to Jesus Christ. There is no atheist equivalent to this.

@kingdavid403 said
Kind of like how you just described the various groups of atheist's from around the world.

People who lack belief in deities ~ around the world ~ are not bound together by any doctrine.

@fmf said
People who lack belief in deities ~ around the world ~ are not bound together by any doctrine.

I disagree, in that they are all bound by their claim of disbelief in deities. Same way you think that I am bound to all other Christians by my belief in Jesus as a Deity.

@kingdavid403 said
I disagree, in that they are all bound by their claim of disbelief in deities. Same way you think that I am bound to all other Christians by my belief in Jesus as a Deity.

I get your point, but think it's important to note it is a very weak bond. (In contrast to theists who are joined together by a strong bond).

For example, my mate Dave and myself both don't believe in the existence of superman. Could it reasonably be said that we are bound together by this disbelief or that it has any real significance in our lives?

@kingdavid403 said
I disagree, in that they are all bound by their claim of disbelief in deities.

My lack of belief is not a doctrine.

@kingdavid403 said
Same way you think that I am bound to all other Christians by my belief in Jesus as a Deity.

Christian belief in Jesus is founded on Christian doctrines about his identity and the the significance of his life and death.

@fmf said
Christian belief in Jesus is founded on Christian doctrines about his identity and the the significance of his life and death.

What about Muslims, Buddhist's, and Hindi's, etc. What about their beliefs in Jesus? Their belief is not founded on Christian doctrines; or are they?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I get your point, but think it's important to note it is a very weak bond. (In contrast to theists who are joined together by a strong bond).

For example, my mate Dave and myself both don't believe in the existence of superman. Could it reasonably be said that we are bound together by this disbelief or that it has any real significance in our lives?

For example, my mate Dave and myself both don't believe in the existence of superman. Could it reasonably be said that we are bound together by this disbelief or that it has any real significance in our lives?
Well, I've never heard of a 'superman never existed club.' I agree that some theists have a bond. Same as Deists, who are few, but still have a bond in their beliefs. All I know is I have no bond with anyone, other than to God as I know Him, and my wife and family. I'll kick a supposed Christian out of my home just as fast as anyone else; probably faster. I've done it before. They thought they had some kind of hold or bond over me also. Interesting.

@kingdavid403 said
What about Muslims, Buddhist's, and Hindi's, etc.

They each have their own doctrines.