@kingdavid403 saidPrecisely sir.
Well, I've never heard of a 'superman never existed club.' I agree that some theists have a bond. Same as Deists, who are few, but still have a bond in their beliefs. All I know is I have no bond with anyone, other than to God as I know Him, and my wife and family. I'll kick a supposed Christian out of my home just as fast as anyone else; probably faster. I've done it before. They thought they had some kind of hold or bond over me also. Interesting.
There is no 'superman never existed club.' The idea that non-believers in superman would form such a club makes no sense.
This can also be applied to non-believers in God. Apart from a shared rejection of a belief put forward by someone else, we have nothing else unifying us. We don't all sit around reading the Origin of Species or go on protest marches. There is nothing more to my atheism than me saying, "Nah, I don't believe that."
I think Christians often make the mistake of thinking that by rejecting God a 'God-shaped hole' is left in the atheist they need to go out and fill. This simply isn't the case.
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidThere is no 'superman never existed club.' The idea that non-believers in superman would form such a club makes no sense.
Precisely sir.
There is no 'superman never existed club.' The idea that non-believers in superman would form such a club makes no sense.
This can also be applied to non-believers in God. Apart from a shared rejection of a belief put forward by someone else, we have nothing else unifying us. We don't all sit around reading the Origin of Species or go on protest m ...[text shortened]... a 'God-shaped hole' is left in the atheist they need to go out and fill. This simply isn't the case.
Well, I heard that Elvis was seen again the other day.
This can also be applied to non-believers in God. Apart from a shared rejection of a belief put forward by someone else, we have nothing else unifying us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_and_religion
Some Excerpts: "In Canada, atheists have set up "atheist churches" however in 2019, the Federal Court of Canada ruled in Church of Atheism of Central Canada v Canada (National Revenue) that atheism was not a religion and not entitled to tax-exempt charitable status."
" State atheism is currently practiced in China and Vietnam," etc.
I think Christians often make the mistake of thinking that by rejecting God a 'God-shaped hole' is left in the atheist they need to go out and fill. This simply isn't the case.
I agree.
@kingdavid403 saidAll religions do. It's not clear "exactly" what point you think you have made.
Exactly.
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@divegeester
"I do like this principle, but the greatest (if I can extend your adjective) question in reply to that is 'who is my neighbour?'"
As I recall, when Jesus was asked that very question, he told the story of the man who was beaten by robbers, and at the end asked: Who was a neighbor to the man who was beaten. The answer: the Samaritan who cared for him. To which Jesus replied: “Go thou and do likewise.”
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BTW, I kinda thought this was what you were thinking of when you asked that question ...
@fmf saidSo do Christians of different denominations.
They each have their own doctrines.
Even here, we have a batch of Christians who do not all believe the exact same things, even though their beliefs center on the same deity. My doctrine is not the LDS doctrine, neither is it the JW doctrine, neither is it the doctrine of others in this forum.
@fmf saidThat not all believers in Jesus, who try to follow His teachings, from around the world, that they do NOT have some great bonding; yet anyway.
All religions do. It's not clear "exactly" what point you think you have made.
That is my point.
@suzianne saidExactly. Believers in Jesus from around the world do NOT have good bonding. In fact, most denominations teach and preach that all other Christian denominations are going to hell; and that, it is only them who are going to make it to the pearly gates. Disgusting in my opinion.
So do Christians of different denominations.
Even here, we have a batch of Christians who do not all believe the exact same things, even though their beliefs center on the same deity. My doctrine is not the LDS doctrine, neither is it the JW doctrine, neither is it the doctrine of others in this forum.
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-Removed-'Nail, meet hammer.' 🙂
[Ephesians 2:8 NKJV] 8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; [it is] the gift of God,"
[2nd Timothy 1:9 NKJV] 9 "who has saved us and called [us] with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began,"
@kingdavid403 saidSo now you have introduced the word "bonding".
That not all believers in Jesus, who try to follow His teachings, from around the world, that they do NOT have some great bonding; yet anyway.
That is my point.
There are certain doctrines that bind all Christians together. They are bound together by certain fundamental beliefs about who Jesus was and what his death achieved. I haven't used the word "bond" or "bonding".
@kingdavid403 saidAre you sure?
In fact, most denominations teach and preach that all other Christian denominations are going to hell.
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@fmf saidSo now you have introduced the word "bonding". "That Bind together," "are bound together"; bond or bonded; please explain the difference.
So now you have introduced the word "bonding".
There are certain doctrines that bind all Christians together. They are bound together by certain fundamental beliefs about who Jesus was and what his death achieved. I haven't used the word "bond" or "bonding".
There are certain doctrines that bind all Christians together.
All Christians? Please share. Also, not all believers in Christ are Christians; such as Muslims, etc.
Furthermore, there are certain core beliefs in non-believers (talk about an oxymoron), that somewhat bind them together; and as, I've already proven in my previous posts.