Practical politics and practical spirituality

@fmf said
The fact that non-believers do not worship a God figure does not alter the fact that worship is a weak example of concrete action on the part of theists.

What's concrete evidence or action of practical atheism? Or, what's concrete evidence or action of practical atheism in a spirituality forum?

@kingdavid403 said
What's concrete evidence or action of practical atheism?

Atheism isn't a belief system. It is a lack of belief in gods. It has no doctrines or narratives that bind all people who lack belief in gods, so there is no such thing as concrete action that can be observed or expected from non-believers as a group.

@kingdavid403 said
What's concrete evidence or action of practical atheism in a spirituality forum?

Firstly, as you probably know, I define "spirituality" in a much broader way than most religionists do.

Secondly, the "action" people engage in here is debate & discussion.

In so far as that has "practical" applications, I'd say there is concrete evidence that I have perspectives to offer about the source of morality and its impact on everyday human interaction.

@fmf said
Atheism isn't a belief system. It is a lack of belief in gods. It has no doctrines or narratives that bind all people who lack belief in gods, so there is no such thing as concrete action that can be observed or expected from non-believers as a group.

Atheism isn't a belief system
I strongly disagree.
It has no doctrines or narratives that bind all people who lack belief in gods,
I strongly disagree.
so there is no such thing as concrete action that can be observed or expected from non-believers as a group.
Highly questionable. Hence, your daily posts here.

@kingdavid403 said
so there is no such thing as concrete action that can be observed or expected from non-believers as a group.
Highly questionable. Hence, your daily posts here.

If you disagree, that's fine by me. It's interesting to note, however, that you have resorted to a kind of whataboutism - aimed at non-believers - rather than take the opportunity that this thread presents to talk about the practicality of walking the Christian walk.

@fmf said
Firstly, as you probably know, I define "spirituality" in a much broader way than most religionists do.

Secondly, the "action" people engage in here is debate & discussion.

In so far as that has "practical" applications, I'd say there is concrete evidence that I have perspectives to offer about the source of morality and its impact on everyday human interaction.

I define "spirituality" in a much broader way than most religionists do.
You and me both. I believe there is also a dark side of spirituality.
Secondly, the "action" people engage in here is debate & discussion.
Is that what that is? Okay.
In so far as that has "practical" applications, I'd say there is concrete evidence that I have perspectives to offer about the source of morality and its impact on everyday human interaction.
I strongly agree.

@fmf said
If you disagree, that's fine by me. It's interesting to note, however, that you have resorted to a kind of whataboutism - aimed at non-believers - rather than take the opportunity that this thread presents to talk about the practicality of walking the Christian walk.

to talk about the practicality of walking the Christian walk.
Practicality?
It's interesting to note, however, that you have resorted to a kind of whataboutism - aimed at non-believers - Not so. I'm sorry you took it that way. I took you the same way about Christians.

@fmf said
Firstly, as you probably know, I define "spirituality" in a much broader way than most religionists do.

Secondly, the "action" people engage in here is debate & discussion.

In so far as that has "practical" applications, I'd say there is concrete evidence that I have perspectives to offer about the source of morality and its impact on everyday human interaction.

I have perspectives to offer about the source of morality
What is the source of morality in your opinion?

@kingdavid403 said
to talk about the practicality of walking the Christian walk.
Practicality?

Yes. The nuts and bolts of it. Concrete actions and activities. How the faith manifests itself in behaviour and interactions, political and political action etc. "Practicality" was probably not quite the apt word. Maybe it should have been "practical implications" or "impacts" or "manifestations".

@kingdavid403 said
I have perspectives to offer about the source of morality
What is the source of morality in your opinion?

Start a thread about it, if you are interested.

@kingdavid403 said
Atheism isn't a belief system
I strongly disagree.
It has no doctrines or narratives that bind all people who lack belief in gods,
I strongly disagree.

My agnostic atheism only has significance here on this message board because it is a stance that contrasts with those who have religious doctrines or narratives that they seek to propagate. It does not manifest itself in any kind of ideological way away from here.

@fmf said
Yes. The nuts and bolts of it. Concrete actions and activities. How the faith manifests itself in behaviour and interactions, political and political action etc. "Practicality" was probably not quite the apt word. Maybe it should have been "practical implications" or "impacts" or "manifestations".

Thanks for the clarification. Politically speaking, I do vote for those that I think will do best. Their spiritual preferences do not affect me.

@fmf said
My agnostic atheism only has significance here on this message board because it is a stance that contrasts with those who have religious doctrines or narratives that they seek to propagate. It does not manifest itself in any kind of ideological way away from here.

My agnostic atheism only has significance here on this message board because it is a stance that contrasts with those who have religious doctrines or narratives that they seek to propagate.
propagate? or, discuss and debate spirituality? I suppose both happen here.
The rest of your post I agree with 100%.
It does not manifest itself in any kind of ideological way away from here.
What manifested your Faith to no-faith?

@kingdavid403 said
propagate? or, discuss and debate spirituality? I suppose both happen here.

Sure. Yes, as I said, "the 'action' people engage in here is debate & discussion". But, unlike how it is with non-believers, I think that if religionists are proselytizing or evangelizing [as opposed to just discussing stuff], perhaps with the intent to "save souls", then that may well be an "action" of some higher order and traction ~ in practical terms ~ than simply chatting online.

@kingdavid403 said
It's interesting to note, however, that you have resorted to a kind of whataboutism - aimed at non-believers - Not so. I'm sorry you took it that way. I took you the same way about Christians.

Perhaps you just don't understand what "whataboutism" means.